PCSX2 Emulator Disables Wayland Support By Default

[mSparks]

They did both, as I doubt any GNU/Linux Distribution supports Surface Flinger,.

Android is probably the most notable GNU/Linux distribution to support it. Only a few billion people a day using that, but that is a fair bit more than the few tens of people using wayland and screaming how wayland is the future.

[Britoid]

Android is probably the most notable GNU/Linux distribution to support it. Only a few billion people a day using that, but that is a fair bit more than the few tens of people using wayland and screaming how wayland is the future.

SurfaceFlinger shares far more in its design with Wayland than it does with Xorg, and was originally created because Xorg sucks for how mobile GPUs operate, which is why it's relatively easy to use Android drivers with Wayland.

But SurfaceFlinger is not good enough to use for a desktop, just try any of those Android-based desktop GUIs and see how bad that input lag, window moving and alt tabbing is.

[varikonniemi]

Android is probably the most notable GNU/Linux distribution to support it. Only a few billion people a day using that, but that is a fair bit more than the few tens of people using wayland and screaming how wayland is the future.

Show me one GNU based Android release? LEt alone one used by billions.

[plandream]

Surface flinger is not designed for desktop. Wayland is and it works well enough. The mauikit on the other hand, seems to be in active development, with the purpose of converging user interfaces.

[dragon321]

That's why people prefer Windows and MacOS. And not by a global conspiracy of corporations - as you can often hear Linux forums.

So before Wayland people actually preferred Linux over Windows and macOS? No? So you have clearly no idea what you are talking about and just wanted to go with your usual "See?! That's why Windows and macOS are better" thing. Nobody is saying anything about some "conspiracy of corporations", you are the first person to mention that in this forum.

Android is probably the most notable GNU/Linux distribution to support it. Only a few billion people a day using that, but that is a fair bit more than the few tens of people using wayland and screaming how wayland is the future.

Since when Android is GNU/Linux? Android is not using GNU userland. Even Linux kernel for Android devices is often compiled with clang and not GCC.

Topic: While some of his points are valid (like lack of global window positioning but I can't really understand why this is such a big deal, seems more like inconvenience rather than lack of crucial feature) then how it's Wayland fault that NVIDIA driver crashes when creating swapchain or some Qt functionality is broken and requires hacks? CSD point is also not valid, Qt already handles that, libdecor also exists and it's used by big software (like SDL or Blender) without issues. Good thing that at least they didn't remove it and only disabled by default but still that rant is quite funny in my opinion.

[plandream]

I do understand his frustration, though. He is mostly a Windows developer and it does require a bit more work.

[yoshi314]

He is mostly complaining about the Qt implementation of CSD. Actually his language sounds not very professional too.

well, he is the guy who arguably did the most work for pcsx2 in the recent year or two. vulkan suport, new qt gui and a lot of performance improvements are all his work.

That, and he's the dev of duckstation.

[Artim]

Android is probably the most notable GNU/Linux distribution to support it. Only a few billion people a day using that, but that is a fair bit more than the few tens of people using wayland and screaming how wayland is the future.

It's Linux, yes. But it's not GNU/Linux.

[Artim]

I do understand his frustration, though. He is mostly a Windows developer and it does require a bit more work.

Let's hope so. It's always more demanding to do things right than to do things the half-assed way. Question only is, where the main part of the works lies. And one should hope that multi billion dollar companies at least get a few things done better than an entirely free and open source ecosystem.

[Volta]

Sometimes someone will tell the truth. Wayland, so praised by all Linux fans, is giving developers headaches.

You mean this one developer represents all of the developers?

That's why people prefer Windows and MacOS. And not by a global conspiracy of corporations - as you can often hear Linux forums.

What people? Those who chose Linux over macOS and Linux beat it in marketshare? You mean long m$ monopoly and their anti-Linux FUD campaign (get the facts) was conspiracy? You're a liar.

In basic scenarios where you use software from a repository Linux is ok. But just reach for software from outside the repository (e.g. Davinci Resolve or MATHLAB) and you may get a headache, as after a system update the program suddenly stops working.

In valid scenarios. So you're now complaining matlab and Davinci Resolve have broken install systems on Linux. Maybe complain there, because ledger app (which is third party one) never broke after update.

On other systems take things do not happen - that is, they also have, but they are 100 times less frequent.

Yeah, right Sherlock:

https://www.techradar.com/how-to/macos-11-big-sur-problems-how-to-fix-the-most-common-issues

If you're still experiencing a range of macOS 11 Big Sur problems long after making the switch, you're not alone. Although the operating system was released back in November 2020, some Mac users are still experiencing ongoing problems. While the arrival of macOS 11 was viewed by many as having been a long time coming, it's been a mixed bag in terms of the benefits and challenges some users have experienced.

Oh, and on Windows updates were one of the most dramatic things that could bring your broken OS down. Not to mention they were/are forced and users were forced to doom.