PCSX2 Emulator Disables Wayland Support By Default

[mSparks]

not the developers who have not yet completed their job of doing the porting work.

its definitely the 3rd parties fault wayland sux.
Especially nvidia.

How much was Redhat paying them to do that job? maybe IBM should ask for their money back.

[Quackdoc]

its definitely the 3rd parties fault wayland sux.
Especially nvidia.

How much was Redhat paying them to do that job? maybe IBM should ask for their money back.

I disagree with this, if wayland needs to exist in a closed ecosystem to be good, then wayland wouldn't be good because of that. And this is fundementally the issue with wayland, is that wayland protocol lead doesn't foster a thriving and flexible ecosystem. the ecosystem is rigid, and snaps when something is a bit out of place

[chromer]

In every aspect Wayland is better than Xorg, all is needed is porting truely the apps. Why complaining?

[mSparks]

I disagree with this, if wayland needs to exist in a closed ecosystem to be good, then wayland wouldn't be good because of that. And this is fundementally the issue with wayland, is that wayland protocol lead doesn't foster a thriving and flexible ecosystem. the ecosystem is rigid, and snaps when something is a bit out of place

You don't disagree with it afaict.

You just missed the intentionally opaque sarcasm.

IBM/Redhat obviously wasn't paying them anything, which is why it wasn't worth the effort for the PCSX2 devs to pretend wayland isn't garbage.

The comedy pivot was the implicit admission by ezst that wayland is garbage.

[TiCPU]

In every aspect Wayland is better than Xorg, all is needed is porting truely the apps. Why complaining?

Every aspect except backward compatibility and ensuring things that worked on Xorg still work in Wayland by default. Unlike the Linux kernel, Wayland sucks at this.

I feel that developer, it just highlighs the poor migration path Wayland offers and how system integrator didn't put enough effort to make sure basic thing like screen sharing work on a fresh install.

[NeoMorpheus]

I smell Ngreedia stench in this one. Bet you money exchanged hands, plus a couple of free 4090s and bingo, we have this beauty.

[mSparks]

Every aspect except backward compatibility and ensuring things that worked on Xorg still work in Wayland by default. Unlike the Linux kernel, Wayland sucks at this.

Wayland was designed for in car entertainment systems, there is nothing for it to be backward compatible with, because no one ever wrote any in car entertainment systems software that depended on X11.

The extra hilarity here is you would think something like PCXS2 is one of the few pieces of X11 software that would actually benefit from a display server whose primary design goal is a single small low resolution display.

But I suspect the lack of 2D and 3D acceleration probably gets in the way, even the PS2 depended on hardware accelerated graphics.

[NeoMorpheus]

Sometimes someone will tell the truth. Wayland, so praised by all Linux fans, is giving developers headaches.

That's why people prefer Windows and MacOS. And not by a global conspiracy of corporations - as you can often hear Linux forums.

In basic scenarios where you use software from a repository Linux is ok. But just reach for software from outside the repository (e.g. Davinci Resolve or MATHLAB) and you may get a headache, as after a system update the program suddenly stops working.

On other systems take things do not happen - that is, they also have, but they are 100 times less frequent.

in my case, i was forced to move to Linux (ChimeraOS) on my gaming pc because Win11 kept giving me grief on many of the games that i have.

Experienced similar weird issues with other apps in my MacBook Pro with M2 Pro.

So who is to blame here?

[ElectricPrism]

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• NVIDIA driver issues ⇒ It's a known fact that nVidia dragged their heels for a decade, pulled every dirty trick in the book to avoid having to implement GBM, and are now finally stuck trying to catch up.
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PCSX2 mad at Wayland coz NoVideo huh?

Color me surprised that NoVideo shit the bed.

[Quackdoc]

You don't disagree with it afaict.

You just missed the intentionally opaque sarcasm.

IBM/Redhat obviously wasn't paying them anything, which is why it wasn't worth the effort for the PCSX2 devs to pretend wayland isn't garbage.

The comedy pivot was the implicit admission by ezst that wayland is garbage.

ah my bad, must be off my game today

PCSX2 mad at Wayland coz NoVideo huh?

Color me surprised that NoVideo shit the bed.

only when wearing tunnelvision glasses.