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Ubuntu 20.04 Gaming Performance Across Desktops, X.Org vs. Wayland
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Originally posted by treba View PostThe nvidia base is small compared to intel.
Edit: clarificationLast edited by mppix; 28 April 2020, 09:47 PM.
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Originally posted by mppix View Post
Correct but Nvidia is dominant in HPC GPU compute with CUDA and their driver is very good. There, driver support is crucial. However, HPC boxes run without desktop and have with IPMI/KVM displays so no need for GBM or EGLstreams.
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Originally posted by Azrael5 View Post
So this comparison is completely useless. Indeed, you are simply comparing Xorg with Xorg. In a Wayland environment, the system has to invoke Xwayland which is Xorg.
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Originally posted by ColdDistance View Post
Yes, the Flatpak version (no official) of OBS has a plugin to record from Wayland, but it crashes on Fedora 32 and on Debian Bullseye doesn't work.
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Originally posted by treba View PostYes of course people can stick to X11 - but there's just too many things that can't be fixed or done there. So things will simply fall apart sooner or later there.Last edited by birdie; 28 April 2020, 05:23 PM.
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Originally posted by Britoid View Post
Those have nothing to do with Wayland and do not belong in a display server protocol. Wayland only describes the communication between a client and the display server. Font/DPI is handled by toolkits, so you're going to have to try and get some common ground with toolkits, good luck.
But why am I telling you this, you already know.
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Originally posted by birdie View PostOh, yeah, imaginary Xorg bugs and use cases for 0.1% of users out there. Wayland fans are obsessed with them for the lack of any strong arguments.
Don't think there's a way to convince you, but FTR: input (touch, gestures, kinetic scrolling...), security (sandboxing, lock screens...), HiDPI (fractional scaling, multi monitor with different scales...), power efficiency (not updating hidden clients - solved via frame callbacks on Wayland, hardware overlays or similar future technology), clean and versioned APIs, pixel perfect presentation - all areas that are incredible hard to get right on X11 (not just Xorg) and straight forward on Wayland. I can really just ask you to talk to people who actually work in these areas - it has a reason why the devs who know most about it push most for the switch to Wayland
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