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    Phoronix: Ubuntu 20.04 Gaming Performance Across Desktops, X.Org vs. Wayland

    Last month we provided some early benchmarks looking at the Ubuntu 20.04 X.Org vs. Wayland gaming performance under GNOME 3.36, but now that Ubuntu 20.04 LTS has been officially released, here is a look at the AMD Radeon Linux gaming performance across a wide variety of desktops on both X.Org and Wayland where supported.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=29124

  • #2
    If the game is based on Xorg the statistic in this comparison is not congruent. The comparison is congruent comparing games based on Xorg with the same games based on Wayland.

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    • #3
      12 years in. This is embarrassing.



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      • #4
        Originally posted by birdie View Post
        12 years in. This is embarrassing.



        That there's bugs in the games/engines?

        100% agree.

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        • #5
          KDE out-performs Gnome on wayland. And both are pretty far behind Xorg performance. Does this mean that all those who have been screaming "Xorg is dead" in the comments, and "No one is working on Xorg - they all hate it and want to kill it" - have been misrepresenting the facts?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Azrael5 View Post
            If the game is based on Xorg the statistic in this comparison is not congruent. The comparison is congruent comparing games based on Xorg with the same games based on Wayland.
            there is not such thing as games based on wayland untill wayland becomes the default for most of users. Another problem with this numbers is the experience, playing in Xwayland is bad in most of these games. Maybe Ubuntu push Wayland for the next Lts and Nvidia supports Wayland makes a change in this numbers and experience

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            • #7
              Originally posted by andyprough View Post
              KDE out-performs Gnome on wayland. And both are pretty far behind Xorg performance. Does this mean that all those who have been screaming "Xorg is dead" in the comments, and "No one is working on Xorg - they all hate it and want to kill it" - have been misrepresenting the facts?
              The fact of the matter is that Xorg still works beautifully for 99% of people out there while Wayland still has teething issues even though it was meant to be THE BEST GRAPHICS SYSTEM IN THE WORLD EVAR. But that will surely change - we just have to wait a few more years. Ten will be enough I guess. Right? 22 years of development must surely be enough!

              What Wayland fans fail to realize is that you don't swap something which is working fine for absolute most people out there with something which still has a ton of issues and corner cases and requires special graphics drivers and which doesn't work well or doesn't work at all with NVIDIA.

              And to add insult to injury Wayland requires a ton of work/code from the environments which want to work with it that's why XFCE/IceWM developers have simply ignored it so far.
              Last edited by birdie; 04-28-2020, 11:05 AM.

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              • #8
                Who ever invented a fairy tale that Wayland should have more performance?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by andre30correia View Post
                  there is not such thing as games based on wayland untill wayland becomes the default for most of users.
                  Well, it depends. Some games may gain "Wayland nativeness" for free, for example if they are based on SDL2, which has added Wayland support in recent versions. Though it also depends on how the game is distributed, i.e. it is very common for games to come with all their libraries, including SDL2. And static linking makes it impossible to upgrade SDL2. Which is to say that it may be possible in some cases to upgrade SDL2 for some games in some distributions.

                  I think that on Steam SDL2 is part of the Steam platform, not the individual game, but I might be wrong. Anybody know for sure?

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                  • #10
                    The fact is Xorg is broken by design and it's a dead end. Wayland is a protocol not graphic system. There are no Wayland results, but XWayland. Nobody will fix broken nvidia drivers for free. After clarifying this I'm afraid the only thing birdie said is:

                    a lot of random text
                    It's you who's embarrassing.

                    birdie
                    Last edited by Volta; 04-28-2020, 11:38 AM.

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