Framework Laptop 16 Delivers Great Linux Support & Performance, Excellent Customizability

[Shiba]

Still a very unnecessary point of failure.

Very necessary. I can tell you in advance if I ever own one of this, I will not bother plugging/unplugging that module like a damn dongle every time I put the PC in my backpack. I'll give it one week before the plastic starts to fall apart.

[Anux]

Well now you have another data point, because I've been using one without breakage or any issues at all. So everyone [except one person] has broken them.

And? What does this prove?

You're point was that it is unlikely to break those ports and a MB is broken much easier which of course is absolute bullshit and just because you managed not to break them doesn't really help your argument because I guess your mother board is still working?

I had many of them in my hands and connected them to the network for installation of W10 and didn't break them, but I also didn't really use them in the field and was careful while un/plugging. Just having a cable plugged in and then moving the laptop is enough to break those ports.

[andyprough]

And? What does this prove?

You're point was that it is unlikely to break those ports and a MB is broken much easier which of course is absolute bullshit and just because you managed not to break them doesn't really help your argument because I guess your mother board is still working?

I had many of them in my hands and connected them to the network for installation of W10 and didn't break them, but I also didn't really use them in the field and was careful while un/plugging. Just having a cable plugged in and then moving the laptop is enough to break those ports.

I did not claim that motherboards would break. That was someone else. I like this one I'm using with the slimline collapsible ethernet port, hope it keeps working for a long time. Maybe Lenovo just made a particularly breakable model that you had so much trouble with? Anyway, even if it were to eventually break, I'd replace it with a cheap disposable rat-tail dongle, not one like this Framework is using. We had big expansion card ethernet ports like this on laptops in the early 00's, they were also always breaking.

[Anux]

I did not claim that motherboards would break. That was someone else.

Oh, sorry.

Maybe Lenovo just made a particularly breakable model that you had so much trouble with?

Thinkpads definitely have become worse over time but unless someone builds those ports out of steel I don't see how they could ever handle mechanical stress.

Dell has/had a good solution to keep those ports strong while still having a thin laptop: P1038392.jpg

[Artim]

Very necessary. I can tell you in advance if I ever own one of this, I will not bother plugging/unplugging that module like a damn dongle every time I put the PC in my backpack. I'll give it one week before the plastic starts to fall apart.

Wow, necessary for a single person. Spoiler alert: nobody forces you to buy a Framework. Also, there's no reason to unplug it when you put it into your backpack. If you don't act like a moron and try to damage it, you won't.

[Shiba]

Wow, necessary for a single person. Spoiler alert: nobody forces you to buy a Framework. Also, there's no reason to unplug it when you put it into your backpack. If you don't act like a moron and try to damage it, you won't.

Every user. And it will break, I've already experienced this with a protruding USB express card I was too lazy to remove.

[Artim]

Every user. And it will break, I've already experienced this with a protruding USB express card I was too lazy to remove.

Sure, every user. That's why ethernet connectors have become quite the rarity in laptops🤡