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Originally posted by k1e0x View PostI love Linux because of the freedom it provides to do what you want to do and it's friendly open community...
oh wait.. it's 2019. lol well I guess *that* is out the window now..
Hello FreeBSD.
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Originally posted by ALRBP View PostI do not see much systemd hate here, but a lot of non-systemd hate.
Maybe some people who complain of systemd haters should to think about their own non-systemd hate.
There have already been a lot of discussion of why systemd is bad. People who do not want systemd know why they do not want it. Gentoo, which is a reference when it comes to distributions for advanced users, refused to default to systemd, but they still support it has an option. That is init freedom. (for Devuan, there is no point of supporting systemd since Debian already supports it)
Last edited by bison; 25 November 2019, 11:20 PM.
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Originally posted by ALRBP View PostThere have already been a lot of discussion of why systemd is bad.
Originally posted by ALRBP View PostPeople who do not want systemd know why they do not want it.
Originally posted by ALRBP View PostGentoo, which is a reference when it comes to distributions for advanced users, refused to default to systemd, but they still support it has an option. That is init freedom.
You don't get to choose dependencies of your software.
Why did the "init freedom" suddenly start to matter when systemd appeared? Nobody cared about sysvinit hegemony all those 30 years.
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Originally posted by intelfx View Post
To date, I have yet to see a single compelling argument to this claim.
Originally posted by intelfx View Post
How about memcpy freedom? Or strlen freedom?
Originally posted by intelfx View Post
Go pester Firefox on the grounds that they dare to depend on Gtk, taking away your precious GUI toolkit freedom.
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Originally posted by ALRBP View Postsystemd puts to many system components into a single program
Single program? No. Single project? Yes. But then so is coreutils.
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Originally posted by ALRBP View Post
This proves you do not even want to discus, because such arguments have been told a lot of time, you just do not want to listen. I will still try with one anti-systemd argument : "systemd puts to many system components into a single program".
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