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Originally posted by kpedersen View Post
You are exactly right. Xfce is also a bloated piece of junk. As I said before, FOSS is not doing well when it comes to desktop environments. They are all exceptionally fragile and bloated.
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Originally posted by kpedersen View PostJust check out the sheer number of patches required to it to build / run on different platforms (even different distros). Also you can kind of see by the fact that it is impossible to get KDE 3 compiling on a modern platform. If you project this by 10 years, we can safely make the same assumption that KDE5 will also be impossible to get compiling on a (then) modern platform.
Unless of course they start engineering in some preservation mechanisms into the code.
Right know you can build KDE3 (TDE), KDE4 and plasma5 on your distribution of choice, you're claim isn't true.
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I'm impressed by the fact that the post-truth era has definitely arrived. People say what they want and ignore the facts, creating their own truths. This is nuts!
If you don't believe me, I find it wonderful; you shouldn't. But at least test yourself and bring the numbers (and your methodology) and also read about it. Phoronix did a FPS benchmark in 2018 and here's the conclusion: 'Regardless of windowed or full-screen, KDE Plasma 5.11 came in slower than the other desktops tested out-of-the-box.'
If you want to try yourself (boot time, memory consumption, etc.), Porteus is a nice way of doing it because it's portable (not need to install, boots from a USB stick just fine) and it has DE-specific ISOs: http://dl.porteus.org/x86_64/Porteus-v5.0/Last edited by fulalas; 04 February 2020, 04:54 PM.
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Originally posted by 240Hz View Post
You shouldn't be using the Linux kernel either, it's to bloated. Go use plan 9 or something and leave those who wish to get work done and run modern programs alone.
Why do you suggest avoiding modern programs though? Are you saying they are all bloated or just the crap sloppy ones?Last edited by kpedersen; 04 February 2020, 05:08 PM.
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So I found the benchmark!
Boot time:
KDE: 23.8 seconds
Xfce: 12.6 seconds
Time to open first instance of the file manager:
KDE: 1.4 seconds
Xfce: 0.2 seconds
Heavy NTFS folder loading:
KDE: 7.9 seconds
Xfce: 4.6 seconds
Big amount of files/folders copying:
KDE: 92.0 seconds
Xfce: 73.0 seconds
Deleting the files/folder from above:
KDE: 9.9 seconds (finally one case where KDE is better!)
Xfce: 14.3 seconds
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Originally posted by fulalas View PostSo I found the benchmark!
Boot time:
KDE: 23.8 seconds
Xfce: 12.6 seconds
Time to open first instance of the file manager:
KDE: 1.4 seconds
Xfce: 0.2 seconds
Heavy NTFS folder loading:
KDE: 7.9 seconds
Xfce: 4.6 seconds
Big amount of files/folders copying:
KDE: 92.0 seconds
Xfce: 73.0 seconds
Deleting the files/folder from above:
KDE: 9.9 seconds (finally one case where KDE is better!)
Xfce: 14.3 seconds
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Originally posted by kpedersen View Post
Just so you realise that doesn't improve KDE's score in any way... It just means that they are now *both* very crap.
Right now it's Plasma 5.18 LTS that is the latest release and since it's an LTS version it will probably be used in many distributions.
If you use a distribution with systemd then you can use gamemode that might improve performance.
Last edited by Nille_kungen; 13 February 2020, 01:27 PM.
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