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Windows 10 vs. Ubuntu 20.04 Linux Performance On The AMD Ryzen 7 4700U
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Originally posted by tildearrow View PostExtinguish: Now that Windows is faster than Linux, there would be no incentive to use Linux anymore.
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Originally posted by pracedru View Post
Speed is just one of many factors to use an OS.
Here are a few reasons to use Linux:[*]You are in control of your OS.
Originally posted by pracedru View Post[*]Open source and standards makes it easy for any one to hack on their OS.
Originally posted by pracedru View Post[*]Freedom to customize your OS to your liking.
Originally posted by pracedru View Post[*]Fantastic toolchains and editors to program apps in almost any language you might like.
Originally posted by pracedru View Post[*]A great community for support.
Originally posted by pracedru View Post[*]Linux runs on everything from emdedded to high performance hardware on a variety of cpu architectures.
Originally posted by pracedru View Post[*]Great driver support out of the box.
Originally posted by pracedru View Post[*]A large amount of open and closed source software for creativity in audio, vidio, graphics and office related tasks.
- Microsoft Office
- Adobe Photoshop and Premiere
- Cubase, FL Studio and the like
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Big surprise here (no).
Unfortunately, AMD's efforts on power and core/clock management with Linux are not just lacking, they are literally nonexistent. Problem is, this is the area that matters a huge deal with Zen2 due to their asymmetric nature and will only matter more in the future.
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Originally posted by profoundWHALE View PostWindows 10 breaks some of the most important things for me in terms of usability: the UI.
They continue to obfuscate things that you might be looking at (hide extensions means someone will think they've downloaded and opened Meme.jpg but it's actually Meme.exe) and break things like the Start Menu.
It is mind boggling just how unresponsive and unreliable a square-shaped single colour panel takes so long to display icons based on an index, let alone how many times it will randomly select something on the start menu so when I type into it, nothing happens.
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Originally posted by profoundWHALE View PostWindows 10 breaks some of the most important things for me in terms of usability: the UI.
They continue to obfuscate things that you might be looking at (hide extensions means someone will think they've downloaded and opened Meme.jpg but it's actually Meme.exe) and break things like the Start Menu.
It is mind boggling just how unresponsive and unreliable a square-shaped single colour panel takes so long to display icons based on an index, let alone how many times it will randomly select something on the start menu so when I type into it, nothing happens.
Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
...yeah, as long as you are forced to learn to use the terminal and edit text files.
Tell me where is:
- Microsoft Office
- Adobe Photoshop and Premiere
- Cubase, FL Studio and the like
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Hi tildearrow
Originally posted by tildearrow View Post...yeah, as long as you are forced to learn to use the terminal and edit text files.
Originally posted by tildearrow View PostDoes Average Joe care?
Originally posted by tildearrow View PostAs long as you are a developer.
Originally posted by tildearrow View PostDoes this really matter? Is this something Average Joe cares about?
Originally posted by tildearrow View Post...yeah, sure. For some other hardware, you're out of luck.
Considering the size of the userbase Linux has fantastic support on most laptops and desktops.
Originally posted by tildearrow View PostTell me where is:
- Microsoft Office
- Adobe Photoshop and Premiere
- Cubase, FL Studio and the like
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Originally posted by pracedru View Post[*]Great driver support out of the box.[*]A large amount of open and closed source software for creativity in audio, vidio, graphics and office related tasks.- Monitoring? Barely anything.
- Onscreen overlay/HUD? Hardly anything.
- Overclocking/downclocing? Welcome console.
- A fan curve? Don't get me started how horribly bad this feature is implemented under Linux.
- Zero RPM on/off? Not supported.
- Game recording and streaming? Not supported.
- Games profiles? Not supported.
And speaking of "creativity in audio, vidio, graphics and office related tasks." - you must be joking, right? The Adobe/Sony/Corel suites are missing entirely.
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Originally posted by dlq84 View PostIs Firefox on Linux VS Windows fair? Doesn't it use the new RebRender on Windows? Or did you disable it?
What I find interesting here is the number of "wins" windows has. Considering my previous experience with Ryzen mobile I suspect that it is a question of the distro catching up with the hardware. I'm running Fedora which is sort of bleeding edge and my "all AMD desktop" has gotten significantly better over the last few weeks as drivers and other software improves. It would be interesting to see this same set of tests with Mesa in about a month or two (with a new kernel).
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Hi birdie
Originally posted by birdie View PostDriver support under Linux is ... let's say far from perfect as indicated ... by the very article we're discussing.
As this article also points out, the driver support is normally so good that Linux beats windows.
Originally posted by birdie View PostI mean if the CPU doesn't work perfectly under Linux what else is left to discuss?
This is still early support. And AMD has a tendency to improve their drivers on linux after initial release.
Originally posted by birdie View PostAnd don't get me started on GPU drivers in Linux which is one major pain. Compare the features of the AMD Radeon Adrenalin drivers under Windows and what we have under Linux.
And in general you can run linux software on most Nvidia and AMD hardware.
Originally posted by birdie View Post- Monitoring? Barely anything.
- Onscreen overlay/HUD? Hardly anything.
- Overclocking/downclocing? Welcome console.
- A fan curve? Don't get me started how horribly bad this feature is implemented under Linux.
- Zero RPM on/off? Not supported.
- Game recording and streaming? Not supported.
- Games profiles? Not supported.
Originally posted by birdie View PostAnd speaking of "creativity in audio, vidio, graphics and office related tasks." - you must be joking, right? The Adobe/Sony/Corel suites are missing entirely.Last edited by pracedru; 21 May 2020, 04:09 PM.
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