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  • #41
    Originally posted by Drago View Post

    War crimes? Like M. Albright said 300 000 dead Iraq's children was worth it. Those war crimes?


    I won’t defend what Albright said. But saying something disgusting is not in itself a war crime. And the dead children she referred to were not killed by war, but were an estimate of the number of children allowed to die by the Iraqi government during sanctions, which were placed by many countries, not just the US.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by post-factum View Post

      It's not only me who thinks that the majority of moscovians support this war. There are public polling results that back this.
      As is the nature of propaganda and misinformation during wars, there is also many statistics that show otherwise.

      Just recently I saw some Russian nonsense telling their citizens that the UK are having to drink their radiator water and eat their shower sponges because they are on "such hard times due to this war". If anything Brexit has been more of an uprooting than Russia ever was.

      So because of this nonsense, even if the plebs from moscow agree with the war, it is based on such faulty knowledge and lies that you can't blame them. *Plus* supporting a war is in itself not a war crime. And lets be honest; them supporting it or not has absolutely zero bearing on if it goes ahead or not.

      Just watch a wildlife documentary on how the alpha chimpanzee riles up all the other males of the tribe when it comes to killing other rival tribes. It is basically the same mechanism and these days we need to see through this primitive crap.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Weasel
        Japan, South Korea. Afganistan was far better before the US pulled its troops, now it's a nightmare again especially for afghan women. You're talking from your pathetic comfy chair while they're suffering there at the hands of the taliban.

        It's not fucking coincidence that countries with "puppet" regimes by the US are ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS far better off especially for each citizen's well being, even economically, and GDP. While every single communist or dictatorship is a garbage pile of dogshit hole, look at North Korea as contrast to South Korea. China may have a good economy but its GDP for example is complete dogshit (i.e. well being of citizens economically).

        So fuck off you ignorant dumbass.
        Yes, you are stupid. Do you even know how GDP is "calculated"?
        The west and especially us is good, because of the dollar. They can afford to print as many they want, but since dollar is forced militarily upon the whole world, they spread the inflation world wide. Once dollar domination fall, and it will fall, lets see how better the west will be.

        I don't like communism btw, but hate lying.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by darkoverlordofdata View Post



          I won’t defend what Albright said. But saying something disgusting is not in itself a war crime. And the dead children she referred to were not killed by war, but were an estimate of the number of children allowed to die by the Iraqi government during sanctions, which were placed by many countries, not just the US.
          So you are saying, we didn't kill those children. We just suffocated their government, so they couldn't buy food(they had the money, because of the oil), they couldn't buy the medicine. Also, not every country was willing to stop trade with Iraq, but we twisted their hands, and make them comply (the ASML case recently). We are good then, we didn't pulled the trigger, it was the hunger/disease that killed them.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Weasel View Post
            God I am so sick of people comparing Russia's actions to the US. For it to be imperialistic they must annex or create colonies. What fucking territories did the US annex or colonize? You god damn ignorant fucks.
            Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya were much better off before the Americans started exporting their "freedom" there. And those are just from the top of my head. But when three letter agencies are doing it, then it's okay. And that's not even mentioning the China question

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            • #46
              Originally posted by darkoverlordofdata View Post



              I won’t defend what Albright said. But saying something disgusting is not in itself a war crime. And the dead children she referred to were not killed by war, but were an estimate of the number of children allowed to die by the Iraqi government during sanctions, which were placed by many countries, not just the US.
              Allowed to die? Those children wouldn't be dead if it wasn't for western imperialists wanting oil

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              • #47
                Originally posted by post-factum View Post
                Moscovian Orlan UAV firmware has leaked, and it does use open source code.
                Key word there is "leaked". They obviously didn't want people to use it. And I highly doubt the open source code they used is code they produced and licensed for others to use.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by user1 View Post
                  It has already been said that these polls are unreliable because some people in the public are afraid to speak their mind out of fear of getting persecuted.
                  We do have personal contact with these people.

                  even if those baikal chips have a chance of ending up in the russian military, that doesn't mean the company itself has an official stance on the war. And, I, as an employee may work for the company because of my personal circumstances. What if I can't find a job anywhere else?
                  Then you do support the regime. That's by definition. And there will be consequences.
                  That's the point of the sanctions - what would you want, is that the sanctions didn't impact anybody. Then they wouldn't be the sanctions.

                  You're completely delusional. What does not wanting to have countries has anything to do with the USSR? USSR stands for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
                  Republic is the keyword, so no country was really cancelled.
                  Oh, because they've named it like this, then it must be the true!
                  ROTFL It's only some newspeak to manipulate people (and it's working pretty well as we see).

                  We had "Polish People's Republic" during the dark ages of USSR and it had nothing to do with res publica.

                  You need to learn some history. Keywords: Lenin, political international, Great October Socialist Revolution, Second International, Communist International (Comintern), Trotskyism, Voroshilov, Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili (in that order give or take).

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                    This is so dumb and unnecessary... What exactly does Jakub think he's accomplishing here?


                    One thing he’s accomplished is getting this forum, and hopefully others, to confront the issue of open source and warfare. It’s been shown that Russia has used open source to aid the war effort. And I think it should be emphasized that this is a war of aggression, a war of colonization.

                    Some propose that this is not a concern of open source, that it is just an ideal of cooperation between individuals. Jakub is one of those individuals, and it seems his actions are influenced by his conscience. I commend him. I wish more people would act on their conscience. Blindly following an ideal is folly.

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                    • #50
                      If Phoronix comments are usually bad, mixing in politics surely is making this one of the worst sections of this site.

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