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  • #31
    Originally posted by kpedersen View Post
    Do you really think those Russians contributing to open-source software are out there on the front lines killing people? Laptop in one hand, gun in the other like a weird nerdy Rambo?
    Would you ban only the soldiers? I guess Putin itself didn't kill anybody by it's own hand in decades - according to your logic he's not guilty.

    Reichsführer SS Heinrich Himmler fainted after the Zyklon B​ presentation in Auschwitz (currently Oświęcim, PL), wasn't he responsible for death camps?

    If your company delivers hardware used by regime, then you're not innocent. Russia is not a country now - it's a mafia that owns the country.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Weasel View Post
      While this move is definitely dumb, your post just put you into the negative iq bracket.
      Elaborate? Who has killed more, and started more wars since WWII? Do you know why they are having so many air craft carriers? Because you can use them to attack far from your border, keeping the logistics at ease. Of course this only works against banana countries, not big boys.

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      • #33
        Instead of parroting each country's individual propaganda and start fighting over it, could we "please" just stick to the facts. If someone is so concerned with patches not being up to par, they should put in the work to verify it.

        There are many players in this game, and all with their own agenda.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by gotar
          70% of ruSSkies support the war, but it's not like this.
          It's the company that is banned, therefore it's employees, while doing their professional job, are banned.
          Except nobody knows the exact number. It has already been said that these polls are unreliable because some people in the public are afraid to speak their mind out of fear of getting persecuted.

          Originally posted by gotar
          Working for any company that supports the offending actions IS supporting such government. If you worked for the military, what would you do? Take a riffle and go shooting the civilians screaming "I'm not involving, I don't care"?
          No it's not? First of all, if I work for the military, that means I most likely support the actions of my country and have patriotic / nationalist views. Second, even if those baikal chips have a chance of ending up in the russian military, that doesn't mean the company itself has an official stance on the war. And, I, as an employee may work for the company because of my personal circumstances. What if I can't find a job anywhere else?


          Originally posted by gotar
          Now you're talking the real Lenin. This kind of philosophy lead to CCCP (USSR) and situation today.
          You're completely delusional. What does not wanting to have countries has anything to do with the USSR? USSR stands for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
          Republic is the keyword, so no country was really cancelled.
          Last edited by user1; 16 March 2023, 10:12 AM.

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          • #35
            When USA bullets kill people then let's be diplomatic(USA can kill people due USA bullets are pink) but if the USA enemy bullets kill people then they are worst than a daemon. Given that all people that makes software and are from USA should be banned due... you know, the never-ending war which USA always starts and never let's finish. Same hypocrisy.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Drago View Post
              Elaborate? Who has killed more, and started more wars since WWII? Do you know why they are having so many air craft carriers? Because you can use them to attack far from your border, keeping the logistics at ease. Of course this only works against banana countries, not big boys.
              Pretty sure Russia did, but that's irrelevant anyways, it's not total death toll that I even care about.

              Some wars are "necessary", especially if they're to counteract a worse war.

              Some atrocities are "necessary", such as the atomic bombings in Japan, otherwise even more people would have died, due to how fanatical the Japanese were at the time.

              So comparing death toll blindly makes no sense.

              See my previous post though. The US tends to favor cooperation with "invaded" countries, and usually just liberates them from tyrants which disallow them to have freedom in the first place. Russia can't favor cooperation because nobody in their sane state of mind cooperates with tyrannical regimes. That's why they annex and colonize. They work on domination.

              So stop fucking comparing them. It's beyond cringe and childish.

              I'm not saying the US doesn't do it for its own benefits btw. Of course cooperation is in its favor as well. Not denying that. They're not angels or whatever other childish nonsense. Their model just works better for citizens, period.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Weasel View Post
                God I am so sick of people comparing Russia's actions to the US. For it to be imperialistic they must annex or create colonies. What fucking territories did the US annex or colonize? You god damn ignorant fucks.

                The difference between your pathetic tyrannical dictatorships and the US is that the former is afraid of letting a country to its own things, because they know nobody in their sane state of mind would accept their laughable regime. The US literally just "liberates" the countries and then leaves them to their own accord, which always turns out to align with the western world, because everyone in their sane state of mind would go towards that path in the end.

                Tyrants are afraid of giving the invaded countries freedom to decide for themselves, and so they annex and colonize. Clowns everywhere.

                Imperialistic tyrannical regimes like Russia work on domination, the US works on cooperation.
                Are you stupid or what? Which liberated country is doing better than before? Afganistan, Iraq, Lybia? They don't create colonies you say, just install puppet governments, ngos, and start sucking the resources. No annexation, no care for the local population. Privatize the gains, and spread the losses.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by post-factum View Post
                  You don't take a hot dog from an individual who raped your mother in front of you, do you?
                  What a ridiculous statement. Yeah, I'm sure these network driver devs are the same people fighting the war... And considering they're being paid to give out FLOSS software, it's not like accepting their merge request is directly helping the people who are actually fighting the war.

                  If this really had any significant impact on aiding Russia's conflict, we wouldn't know this code exists.

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                  • #39
                    As long I see this threat I MUST AGAIN think about truly superior ideas in the Star Trek timeline in the 21. century, precisely in 2036.
                    According to a new United Nations regulation, no citizen of Earth is responsible for crimes committed by their ancestors (see TNG episode Encounter at Farpoint).
                    This truly needs it for the real world, because we still blame another side for committing XYZ at any time in history.

                    Do you really want to do that again and burn life for death past and still feed conflicts fully based on the past? No matter if we talk about Russia, the US, Europe, China, Japan, etc.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                      If this really had any significant impact on aiding Russia's conflict, we wouldn't know this code exists.
                      Moscovian Orlan UAV firmware has leaked, and it does use open source code.

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