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  • #41
    Originally posted by Slartifartblast View Post
    So it's a $50 uplift across the board compared to Zen 2 launch price which is disappointing, I was hoping for flat pricing.
    Because you paid for the R&D? I thought not.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by milkylainen View Post
      So. Let us recap.
      Intel has been ***rape:ing the entire industry for decades with their gouging price-models.
      And when a competitor that _actually_ is doing an amazing job of kicking their asses... you decide to complain?

      Hell no. I'll happily pay a $50 AMD tax over getting that perpetual ***rape from Intel.
      Balance. Karma. Call it whatever you want.
      People drink more than $50 on their bar tab, in a single night. Either everyone here is completely broke or lead very sad lives.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer View Post

        People drink more than $50 on their bar tab, in a single night. Either everyone here is completely broke or lead very sad lives.
        Thank you for applying for the position of purchasing manager, don't call us, we'll call you.

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        • #44
          Wow, this is just amazing.

          In less than 5 years AMD has taken us from the stagnant hegemony, and financial rape, of Intel to fantastically powerful 6C/12T CPUs for $299, 8C/16T for $449, and 16C/32T for $799.

          All within 65W to 105W TDP.

          I mean really, on second thought amazing doesn't cut it. It's stunning.

          And anyone who has a complaint or doesn't like it is free to continue kowtowing to Intel.

          I just bought an R7 3700X, and it's already more powerful than I need. But I'm getting an R7 5800X as soon as I can just to reward AMD for their fantastic work.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by pmorph View Post

            How much would an i9-10900 cost if AMD wasn't around? Yep, that $50 is nothing.
            Not much long ago Intel was selling 10 cores for 1723 USD and quad cores for 370 USD.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer View Post

              People drink more than $50 on their bar tab, in a single night. Either everyone here is completely broke or lead very sad lives.
              Then they don't have $50 to put into their fun stuff jar. My fun stuff jar is up to a whopping $140. It should be 4x that but I bought some Oberwerk 10x50 binoculars (they're awesome), some new winter clothes (necessary), and a Weissenborn that I totally suck at playing but thought it would be a good idea (not a good idea). I need to buy some different strings for it, but that's $15 from the jar that needs to get up to around $900 for me to buy the system that I want.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

                Then they don't have $50 to put into their fun stuff jar. My fun stuff jar is up to a whopping $140. It should be 4x that but I bought some Oberwerk 10x50 binoculars (they're awesome), some new winter clothes (necessary), and a Weissenborn that I totally suck at playing but thought it would be a good idea (not a good idea). I need to buy some different strings for it, but that's $15 from the jar that needs to get up to around $900 for me to buy the system that I want.
                Sounds like by the time your fun stuff jar reaches ~$900, Zen 3 prices will have dropped. I doubt they will stay at the launch price for more than 5 months.

                If you don't need it anytime soon, I would skip to Zen 4 on the new socket. Only problem there is that DDR5 prices could be much higher than DDR4, and Zen 2/3 chips will be cheaper. But you get a new and exciting upgrade path.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by jaxa View Post

                  Sounds like by the time your fun stuff jar reaches ~$900, Zen 3 prices will have dropped. I doubt they will stay at the launch price for more than 5 months.

                  If you don't need it anytime soon, I would skip to Zen 4 on the new socket. Only problem there is that DDR5 prices could be much higher than DDR4, and Zen 2/3 chips will be cheaper. But you get a new and exciting upgrade path.
                  I bet the launch price will drop right around the middle of January. By then all the holiday returns and late shoppers are done for the season.

                  That's my plan. I was all set on upgrading my current system this year and decided to hold off another year since it still does 1080p60 for most games and there's a new socket with DDR5 right around the corner. I just can't justify buying into AM4 when it is "hitting EOL", y'all know what I mean, and a couple years of something new is about to come out.

                  But if I had bought into Zen 1 or Zen 2, I'd probably consider one of these until AM5/DDR5 lowers in price and let the early adopters get the early adopter kinks worked out.
                  Last edited by skeevy420; 08 October 2020, 07:23 PM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by muncrief View Post
                    I just bought an R7 3700X, and it's already more powerful than I need. But I'm getting an R7 5800X as soon as I can just to reward AMD for their fantastic work.
                    I agree that AMD processors made very good progress, but if we want to be realistic then it is worth mentioning that there is a non-negligible probability of Intel being faster throughout the majority of year 2021 (the last 3 of 4 quarters of the year) because of Rocket Lake.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by atomsymbol View Post

                      I agree that AMD processors made very good progress, but if we want to be realistic then it is worth mentioning that there is a non-negligible probability of Intel being faster throughout the majority of year 2021 (the last 3 of 4 quarters of the year) because of Rocket Lake.
                      I don't care atomsymbol.

                      Intel is, and always has been, a totally corrupt and evil corporation.

                      If it weren't for AMD we'd be spending $500 for a single threaded quad core processor today. If not more.

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