Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

AMD Ryzen 5000 Series / Zen 3 Launch

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #31
    Originally posted by gukin View Post
    Nothing about the next, or current, APU. I guess I won't regret my "Raven Ridge Forever" tattoo.
    That's what I'm wanting to hear about, hopefully in an AM5 socket. As much as I'd love a 5600X in an APU form, I thought about it and it makes no sense for me to upgrade from what I have until AMD's next socket is released. I just want a decent performing desktop APU so I can run a light desktop using two CPU threads and the APU's GPU and run VMs with my GPU and the remaining CPU threads.

    From a power user and gamer perspective, a decent performing desktop CPU with a built-in GPU is the one thing that makes Intel a better choice for a high end desktop processor. While APU's aren't the greatest for gaming, they're great if you want to use 3d accelerated VMs on the secondary GPU. With high end AMD solutions we require two GPUs to do that which sucks if we're trying to keep the power and/or heat down.
    Last edited by skeevy420; 08 October 2020, 03:20 PM.

    Comment


    • #32
      Originally posted by mlau View Post
      ...

      the other interesting thing was the the big navi numbers: they were very close to nvidia 3080 numbers.
      For convenience, here are the numbers:
      https://www.pcworld.com/article/3585...-rtx-3080.html

      I'm curious to see how the relative ray tracing performance will go...

      There are rumors that the top Big Navi card will be 250 watt (the 3080 has a 320 watt TDP)... Even if the performance is a little behind, with that reduction in TDP, that would be really impressive. But these are just rumors, so naturally take with a grain of salt until there's something more concrete.

      Hopefully in a few months I'll finally be able to switch my desktop from Intel to AMD!

      Comment


      • #33
        Uhm... I REALLY wonder what the hell people are complaining about?

        There's no reason to believe that AMD is lying or misrepresenting performance. Zen 3 looks like a compelling package. Massive IPC improvements, slightly higher clocks, better power efficiency. I guess it would have been cool to see 5 Ghz, but eh...

        Now that AMD is actually leading in pretty much all areas, it's not surprising that they are increasing the prices slightly. However this is still inexpensive compared to Intel of 5 years ago! So what are you complaining about?

        The only thing that is disappointing (for the moment) is the lack of a 65W 8-core CPU. I guess we'll see it next year.

        Comment


        • #34
          Originally posted by bosjc View Post

          Yeah, a 20% IPC increase feels like a Zen2+, sure, that makes sense given that Zen1+ was a less than < 5% improvement over Zen1, and Zen1+ -> Zen2 was 15%. Utterly ridiculous.
          Yeah, there is some choice whining in here.

          Zen 2 will be the budget option, maybe seeing some slight price drops, and for anyone satisfied with their current performance, wait for Zen 4 on the AM5 socket.

          Zen 3 will go down in price by March 2021 when Intel releases Rocket Lake.

          Comment


          • #35
            Originally posted by atomsymbol View Post

            I agree that it is possible that the biggest boost might come from the now unified L3 cache, although I would be disappointed if it is true because it would mean that Zen 3 will have lower IPC than SunnyCove-derived Intel desktop CPUs to be released (presumably) in year 2021. I would need to see the Zen 3 architecture diagram in order to decide whether to buy Zen 3 in year 2020.
            There was one slide during the presentation which showed from where the speed-ups came. Some items, I think, also affect single-core performance. I definitely expect zen 3 to have much better single-core performance than zen2. Still, I really want to see an in-depth analysis of zen 3 and a large variety of benchmarks.

            Comment


            • #36
              For those of us into throughput, I'm concerned about memory bandwidth...

              Comment


              • #37
                Originally posted by milkylainen View Post
                So. Let us recap.
                Intel has been ***rape:ing the entire industry for decades with their gouging price-models.
                And when a competitor that _actually_ is doing an amazing job of kicking their asses... you decide to complain?

                Hell no. I'll happily pay a $50 AMD tax over getting that perpetual ***rape from Intel.
                Balance. Karma. Call it whatever you want.
                How much would an i9-10900 cost if AMD wasn't around? Yep, that $50 is nothing.

                Comment


                • #38
                  Originally posted by Anarchy View Post
                  There was one slide during the presentation which showed from where the speed-ups came. Some items, I think, also affect single-core performance. I definitely expect zen 3 to have much better single-core performance than zen2. Still, I really want to see an in-depth analysis of zen 3 and a large variety of benchmarks.
                  Potential µop-cache redesign details: https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/...rpostid=195691

                  Comment


                  • #39
                    I would certainly like to buy some Ryzen 5000 to upgrade some of my computers - if only there was a GPU with stable open source drivers to use along with it. Unluckily, Intel GPUs are currently the only ones on the market satisfying both my requirements of being stable and open source.

                    Comment


                    • #40
                      Originally posted by scottishduck View Post
                      Highly skeptical of the 19% IPC and beating intel on single thread claims. The price increases are a huge slap in the face. They’re not even close to being a market leader yet and they’re wanting to gouge. Will probably still get a 5950X, hah.
                      Fifty bucks more for a faster processor is a "gouge" in your worldview? Wut? Memories must be short around here. It was only a few years ago that intel was charging $1000+ for a 4 core i7 full of security flaws. And here we are in late 2020 and Intel is still stuck on 14 nm. Dunno about you, but I will gladly pay +50 for what Ryzen 5000 series offers compared to the competition.
                      Last edited by torsionbar28; 08 October 2020, 05:15 PM.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X