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  • #11
    Originally posted by mlau View Post
    Drink a shot whenever you hear "gaming processor"
    Well, that's the last nail in Intel's coffin, as game performance was the only benefit that they claimed vs Ryzen, so their focus were directly on that point, that besides multi-core and perf/watt leadership, now the lead in game and single thread

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    • #12
      Originally posted by carewolf View Post
      Yeah, felt more like a Zen 2+ really.
      Zen+ architecture was almost the same as 1st-gen Zen (the "widths of the cores" are the same). The main advantage of Zen 2 compared to Zen/Zen+ was that it increased the width of in-core and cache data-paths by 100%. The main advantage of Zen 3 compared to Zen 2 is (presumably) higher number of int/float units and increased number of loads/stores per clock - which by definition implies that Zen 3 can (presumably) internally sustain to move more bits per clock than Zen 2 in its cores&caches.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by scottishduck View Post
        They’re not even close to being a market leader yet and they’re wanting to gouge.
        They lead in every possible workload at the same price as intel, the only think intel can do to stay competitive is to lower prices, what do you call a market leader so?
        They didnt hike the price for more than 20%, so the new products still lead in perf/dollar against themselves (I know current prices is a different story)

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        • #14
          Any word on whether these will work with X570 mobos?

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          • #15
            AMD is now the absolute leader in x86 processor market. They are also a corporation. They were the corporation that saved us from greedy Intel, but now this is the new era where Intel is going to need to save us from greedy AMD. Don't get me wrong, the processors are absolutely incredible, but the competition is over. Now it's time to reap the fruits of the hard labour, and that comes in with increase of prices.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by MadeUpName View Post
              Any word on whether these will work with X570 mobos?
              The current BIOSs are already compatible to boot zen3, but the new BIOSs day 1 will have full support, for x570/B550 mobos.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by MadeUpName View Post
                Any word on whether these will work with X570 mobos?
                they will

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by MadeUpName View Post
                  Any word on whether these will work with X570 mobos?
                  Yes they will. Also, some motherboards now support "USB BIOS flash", where they can be updated without a CPU fitted at all.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by scottishduck View Post
                    Highly skeptical of the 19% IPC and beating intel on single thread claims. The price increases are a huge slap in the face. They’re not even close to being a market leader yet and they’re wanting to gouge. Will probably still get a 5950X, hah.
                    I don't know that they are gouging. With the way the economies of the world are with Covid, it is to be expected that prices will increase somewhat. Not to mention, they are still really cheap in comparison to the comp.

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                    • #20
                      Nothing about the next, or current, APU. I guess I won't regret my "Raven Ridge Forever" tattoo.

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