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Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
MS does has a AR headset which is way, way better than VR: http://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us
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Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
It's too expensive and it's really just a halfway solution. You can't use more than 2 senses (hearing/vision) with current "VR" technology which makes what you can do with it very limited. That being said, people paying for it makes companies want to invest more into it so maybe we'll see something worthwhile in 30 years.
It's not just headphones and a display attatched to your head, the positioning is what makes it different and makes you feel "present" and immersive. The very accurate controllers are also 1000x better than the Wii shit.
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Originally posted by Vistaus View PostMS does has a AR headset which is way, way better than VR: http://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us
I know enough to tell you that it is a huge pain in the ass to get that right (and Hololens is still very immature), far harder than VR.
Hololens isn't just doing what a VR headset does (motion detection and adjusting the image, stereoscopic vision), but also true machine vision as if it has to generate stuff "on your table" it must know where the table is, its shape and all, avoid any extraneous objects on it and so on and so forth, and that is still a work-in-progress in cutting edge robotics and automation too.
Did you notice that in all situations where they showed Hololens the environment was VERY bare? With furniture with very boxy shapes, different colours for each piece of forniture and also for floor, and no weird objects with all sorts of shapes and colors that would be piled everywhere in a real home? That's because their machine vision software is immature (just like any other machine-vision software, they can't get much better than that currently).
Also people reported glitches with the holograms clipping through solid objects (like glitches in videogames) during the real tests with real people.
VR is a piece of cake if compared to true AR like Hololens. Still, MS has no VR headset, and Master is probably very butthurt about that, so I was just pointing it out.
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Originally posted by Master5000 View PostVR is dead. No chance of taking off. People don't want it. Linux fanbois need not apply.
Back to topic: Here is a short interview with an independent developer working on SteamVR support for Linux in Unreal Engine 4:
http://www.vronlinux.com/articles/ya...r-ue4-linux.49
You can send him some $$ on patreon if you want to see this work sooner than later.
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostYou're just butthurt because MS has no VR headset.
http://www.roadtovr.com/first-look-w...-dell-hp-acer/
Dell has a wired Windows Holographic VR headset on the way this year, but its future holds a standalone device too. That’s what Liam Quinn, Chief Technology Officer and Senior Vice President at the company told me during CES last week. Quinn said that the company is doing a
I don't understand why people are so eager to lock themselves into the microsoft ecosystem. Every other day you see articles like http://www.roadtovr.com/virtual-real...-sarah-downey/. People are constantly begging corporations not to abuse the power the people gave them by installing their proprietary software in the first place.
Today you can run a software stack with libreboot, linux, radeonsi+radeon/amdgpu, OSVR SDK, open source VR application and have the only "untrusted" software be the radeon firmware. But people don't give a shit about OSVR on Linux. Not even the Sensics/Razer/OSVR themselves care enough to make their unity and unreal plugins work on Linux. Instead people prefer to install untrusted (= closed source) software and then they complain about all the privacy implications of having to trust closed source software.
SteamVR is not a solution to that. It's a closed source runtime and even OpenVR (a wrapper library around SteamVR) is closed source. Of course having it on Linux is a step forward, but it's only one step.
The most important step will be khronos' upcoming standard: https://www.khronos.org/vr
It will be what OSVR could have been, if people cared.
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Originally posted by Auzy View PostAnd I think that if the headsets cost only $200, everyone would buy them.
Buy the all new Power Glove 2.0, now with Kung Fu Grip!Last edited by eidolon; 15 January 2017, 01:09 AM.
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I've wanted VR forever, and I enjoy Google Cardboard. I may hack my phone hardware ID to get daydream and as soon as Vive support hits Linux I'm going to buy one, maybe two. Even if it is just a gimmick or a fad, I have to find out for myself.
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Originally posted by haagch View PostYou are far behind the curve.
http://www.roadtovr.com/first-look-w...-dell-hp-acer/
http://uploadvr.com/dell-will-standalone-vr-headset/
2. they are basically equivalents of apps using your phone for VR "scale across mainstream Intel architecture platforms natively on [Intel’s CPU-integrated] HD Graphics,” by the end of 2017" Yeah, right, VR on HD graphics man, that's going to totally pwn in games.
I don't understand why people are so eager to lock themselves into the microsoft ecosystem.
People are constantly begging corporations not to abuse the power the people gave them by installing their proprietary software in the first place.
Also the people gave power to corporations? Lolwhut? Corps took their power on their own by whatever means were necessary to make money.
Hell, even governments that should theoretically have received the power from the people don't give a fuck about their own citizens and bend over big $$$ will.
Instead people prefer to install untrusted (= closed source) software and then they complain about all the privacy implications of having to trust closed source software.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post1. they are not made by MS but by OEMs
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostAlso the people gave power to corporations? Lolwhut? Corps took their power on their own by whatever means were necessary to make money.
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostThose that complain are a tiny minority in this reality we live in.
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