According to iD, Quake Live for Linux/MacOS are "Top Priority"...

[L33F3R]

i deem this thread the legendary phoronix hijack

[Dragonlord]

This is all nice and well but I knew this already. I'm not stupid. I use GenToo since a long time especially in business servers. And yes, I did "exactly" like this but it doesn't work, on all machines I have GenToo on. Not the first time something doesn't work which they put on stable. You don't want to know how often they break stable thing and have no clue why. That's the way it is :P

EDIT: Just to make it a bit more clear: eselect knows, but not firefox or others:

# eselect java-nsplugin list
Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins
[1] sun-jdk-1.6 current

Listed in eselect but not working. That's the deal.

EDIT: EDIT: For more clarification:

about: plugins
Shockwave Flash
....File name: libflashplayer.so
NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 1.0.0
....File name: npwrapper.so
OpenOffice.org Plug-in
....File name: libnpsoplugin.so

And the wrapper is only active on this machine not the others I tested with ( has to do with some web-dev stuff I have to deal with at the time being so it's temporary ).

And this is what not only I get hence my comment. Nice if it works for people but it is not stable yet, sorry about that.

[Redeeman]

@deanjo:
The drama IS with the official 64-bit java plugin of Sun. I don't use icedtea at all. If I need to visit a java based website I need to use Konqueror since it uses directly the java binary not requiring any plugin. This though is a Konqueror unique so other browsers require the plugin and this plugin is still not working on a 64-bit machine. I tested it on entire 3 machines with Gentoo and Kubuntu without any luck. And since majority of people on the internet experience the same problems I'm confident it's not some spurious software incompatibility.

Well... after being made aware of your situation, and deanjos recommendation, i figured i'd like to give you some log from #phoronix on freenode..

.... deanjo makes comments about gentoo and sun java ....
<Deanjo> and btw, it's not only suse that it works on. It's pretty much anything BUT gentoo
<redeeman> Deanjo: are you telling me that on gentoo, the 64bit plugin does not work?
<redeeman> on which java version?
<Deanjo> on the official 64-bit 1.6 plugin
<redeeman> which i get in which java version?
<Deanjo> Java 6 Update 3
<redeeman> it does not appear to be in the jdk 1.6.0.13
<redeeman> ah
<redeeman> i installed without nsplugin
<redeeman> let me redo
<Deanjo> no nsplugin needed
<Deanjo> native 64-bit
<redeeman> yes, aka netscape plugin?
<redeeman> im not talking about wrapper here :P
<Deanjo> ya the netscape one.
<redeeman> that's an optional useflag on gentoo
<redeeman> which i am getting now
<redeeman> ahh, now it shows up in eselect
<Deanjo> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=33
<redeeman> it works fine for me, Deanjo
<redeeman> i just switched to it
<Deanjo> might want to make a howto for dragonlord then lol
<Deanjo> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showt...t=16779&page=4
<redeeman> all i did was enable nsplugin on the package, thereby having the actual plugin installed, and then run: eselect java-nsplugin set 64bit sun-jdk-1.6
<redeeman> and then fire up a firefox
<redeeman> then run aboutlugins to ensure its correct
<redeeman> and then test a java applet-containing site
<redeeman> and voila
<Deanjo> Ya, kinda figured it was a PEBKAC issue
<redeeman> you see, gentoo is nothing magic, one way or the other, it contains the same packages, typically with a few patches (which they get from fedora/upstream, or make themselves, and push upstream), and in the case of something like java, obviously its the exact same binaries as other distributions enjoy, and as such, it behaves pretty much the same
<redeeman> there have however been, ~1.5-2 years ago, some minor issues with java for people that enabled libxcb in libx11
<redeeman> which ofcourse gentoo couldnt fix as it didn't build the binaries
<Deanjo> Ya I know, according to dragonlord though alot of people are having issues getting it going in gentoo.
<redeeman> well...
<Deanjo> You might want to post how you did it so Dargonlord can stop implying everybody is bullshitting him

[Dragonlord]

Hehe... this one ends up in my funny collection. One of the few forum-fun-images which are indeed fun :P

[Svartalf]

Sorry but:

ROFLMAO! Now where did you find THAT?

[Aradreth]

Yeah, can we get back on topic plz??? What was the topic? Hmm, oh yeah, quake live on linux being MIA.

Sorry but:

[xav1r]

Yeah, can we get back on topic plz??? What was the topic? Hmm, oh yeah, quake live on linux being MIA.

[L33F3R]

i think what we need here is a java support thread XD

[Aradreth]

I can test here with all machines I've got ( 5 or so ) with two different distros and 64-bit is not working. Are you using an unofficial, experimental build? Because I remember from the GenToo forums that somebody mentioned that you could try the highly experimental build from Sun itself which might work but also might not.

I tested JRE 6 update 13 (the lastest one).

[deanjo]

Then a heck lot of people would be "morons" which I doubt. Are you sure you run "real" 64-bit and not through a 32-bit layer or using the multi-lib abstraction? Since these are pulled in automatically if you have an 32-bit Java plugin.

1000% sure. No unofficial. It wouldn't be the first time gentoo has issues like this.