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Originally posted by Mez' View PostIt's not because you hate it that it's "shitty". It just doesn't work for you.
As long Ubuntu is aimed and recognized as the distro with is a "go to distro for new Linux users" I will call it shitty and it is because it does a really bad job and this, many new Linux users come with new hardware and Ubuntu way to often doesn't work on it where a distro with stable but update kernel/graphics stack would work.
Ubuntu should provide a "Ubuntu Desktop" with by default gets fast stable kernel/graphics stack and that should be a got to distro for new users. That what it now provides should be named "Ubuntu Business" or something like that.Last edited by dragonn; 02 November 2021, 07:44 AM.
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Originally posted by spykes View PostI totally disagree.
Your comparison with Android is invalid since Android has nothing to do with the Linux Desktop while SteamOS is just a re-branded desktop Linux distribution.
All Valve did brought a lot to the Linux Desktop already and it's going to get even better if the Steam Deck is a success.
No, it's not. It will run Steam as a primary and probably the only user facing application with pretty much nothing which is close to the average desktop. Also Steam will have its own compositor which is Steam Deck specific.- No files or folders management.
- No multitasking per se.
- No system tray.
- A ton of other things normal desktop users do.
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Originally posted by theriddick View PostIronically the Chinese people prefer windows, I can never get over that fact given how the CCP hates the West so much. You'd think Linux be the ultimate winner in China+territories around it. But I guess they'd rather pick a capitalistic OS over a open-source solution... puzzling and perplexing at the same time!
As for the latest drop in these machines my guess would be further mitigation work in removing how these machines skew the figures (they've already changed the way survey targets are selected) and/or new COVID-related restrictions."Why should I want to make anything up? Life's bad enough as it is without wanting to invent any more of it."
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Originally posted by dragonn View Post
Ubuntu is doing it wrong, as a single person I can not do more about it the not recommending it.
And yes "Linux should cater to people and hardware", I definitely agree WITH is why Ubuntu should provide BY default kernel and graphics stack updates and not let users wait half a year to get updates with are at this point also of of date. Most of the time you need to wait at least where one year after getting new hardware for ubuntu to pick up updates you hardware might need. And that's bad, super bad, but that problem is specific to Ubuntu, not Linux in general and I can not do more for a new Linux users then write "don't use Ubuntu", not gonna change how Ubuntu works.
If drivers were decoupled from the kernel it wouldn't be an issue but that's not going to happen with the current Linux kernel development model, "stable API nonsense" and such. It would also allow to run any drivers you want vs. being forced to run a specific kernel release.
I'm eagerly waiting for Zircon (Google's Fuchsia kernel) which promises stable kernel APIs, also it's a micro kernel, so it can survive drivers' crashes unlike Linux where they are fatal.Last edited by birdie; 02 November 2021, 07:55 AM.
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Originally posted by birdie View PostNo, it's not. It will run Steam as a primary and probably the only user facing application with pretty much nothing which is close to the average desktop. Also Steam will have its own compositor which is Steam Deck specific.- No files or folders management.
- No multitasking per se.
- No system tray.
- A ton of other things normal desktop users do.
Big big news today: Valve has announced the Steam Deck–a handheld gaming device running KDE Plasma under the hood! This is a big deal, folks. By using a Linux-based OS, Valve is hugely improv…
birdie absolutely nothing right in that list. Steam Deck does not have it own compositor its using KDE plasma. Yes it auto runs Steam full screen with KDE desktop behind it.
Yes it does have multi tasking and it does have folder management. Yes it does have on screen keyboard support.
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Originally posted by birdie View PostEither you have the latest and buggiest or relatively old and relatively bug-free.
About out of the and the ""stable API nonsense" ", it would be nice when the kernel devs finally move like the rest of the world to doing regular PR, the mailing list stuff is where many out-of-tree module dies
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
No, it's not. It will run Steam as a primary and probably the only user facing application with pretty much nothing which is close to the average desktop. Also Steam will have its own compositor which is Steam Deck specific.- No files or folders management.
- No multitasking per se.
- No system tray.
- A ton of other things normal desktop users do.
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
No, it's not. It will run Steam as a primary and probably the only user facing application with pretty much nothing which is close to the average desktop. Also Steam will have its own compositor which is Steam Deck specific.- No files or folders management.
- No multitasking per se.
- No system tray.
- A ton of other things normal desktop users do.
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
No, it's not. It will run Steam as a primary and probably the only user facing application with pretty much nothing which is close to the average desktop. Also Steam will have its own compositor which is Steam Deck specific.- No files or folders management.
- No multitasking per se.
- No system tray.
- A ton of other things normal desktop users do.
It comes with a fully functional KDE Plasma environment with all you listed above.
You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.
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