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Originally posted by bple2137 View PostAnother concern is Steam itself. They say it will run the same Steam with new UI cut specifically for the device. Steam on Linux (or maybe Steam client in general) is buggy and clunky.
I stress the Linux client quite a bit through Proton and third-party compatibility layers (wrappers for native emulator such as ScummVM, etc.) and there are literally zero problems with the client itself. In recent memory, only some users have encountered a network configuration quirk such that Steam interfered with the host system (perhaps useful on SteamOS, not so much on a generic host).
This means that, objectively, Steam on Linux is better suited for retro gaming because, after installation, wrappers are integrated in Steam and users can choose them via GUI. The only thing missing is discovery&installation of such third-party wrappers via Steam itself, just like it already offers the option to choose different Proton versions.
Cheers and happy gaming.
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That does not change the fact that for a Workstation OS, KDE is simply to broken, to heavy and too buggy for being the default. No reputable workstation linux distro ships KDE by default. Thats not fanboyism, install plasma, test it, compare it and every sane person will come to the same conclusion. A poorly executed windows clone with questionable software design and licensing issues.
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Originally posted by pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx View Post
Who in the actual hell wants to hook up a big honking eGPU to a portable console, even when docked? This must amount to < 5% of the target market. Again, sometimes the things we want are super niche and make zero sense from a business perspective, but it's hard to see that because they would be cool as hell to ourselves.
Also, if this even reasonably successful it will build momentum for future iterations, or even a line of devices, including some higher end and more expensive ones that will probably have all the things you want. Not to mention it's a nice way to directly fund Valve's investment in Linux gaming, when nobody else seems to give a damn.
Aye! Agreed! It would also be amazing if these machines were targeted by more gaming platforms, to get more Linux traction.
But it is kind of amazing - with this little machine, you can tinker all you want, and if the extension ports allows, it can be anything you want, regardless of how niche one's wishes are.
Also, I wonder how many normal consumers are even aware that something like eGPU exists. And if they were, would they reliably be able to figure out if their device with a USB-C port, is actually compatible with an eGPU. I know that there are the small icons showing what type of port it actually is, but I'd imagine that some might just look at the USB-C plug on an eGPU, and think "USB-C!! Great! I can attatch an eGPU to my phone/AMD laptop!" - especially because USB historically has been so "universally" compatible with basically everything that fits in the slot... If I fits, I supports! Now you have maybe 3 ports on a laptop that *looks* identical, yet the external monitor only works in a specific one, the eGPU only works in another specific one, yet the USB-C storage media works in all of them.
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Originally posted by Alexmitter View PostThat does not change the fact that for a Workstation OS, KDE is simply to broken, to heavy and too buggy for being the default.
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Originally posted by chocolate View PostDisclaimer: everything I say here is anecdotal, naturally. The Steam client on Linux is, in my experience, the most stable and reliable out of all platforms. I've had recent experience on macOS and Windows. The macOS client is the worst by far, while the Windows client works OK but then the underlying system does not remember e.g. window placement or maximized preference. But then again, "works OK" is not enough given that Windows does not offer anything more than that. Steam on Linux, for example, is infallible with most controllers.
I stress the Linux client quite a bit through Proton and third-party compatibility layers (wrappers for native emulator such as ScummVM, etc.) and there are literally zero problems with the client itself. In recent memory, only some users have encountered a network configuration quirk such that Steam interfered with the host system (perhaps useful on SteamOS, not so much on a generic host).
This means that, objectively, Steam on Linux is better suited for retro gaming because, after installation, wrappers are integrated in Steam and users can choose them via GUI. The only thing missing is discovery&installation of such third-party wrappers via Steam itself, just like it already offers the option to choose different Proton versions.
Cheers and happy gaming.
The aggressive price of this device is amazing. I plan to use it also to watch movies, listen to music, and even browse the web since I can just use a BT kb/mouse. Wonderful.
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