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  • squirrl
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    Gnome's been dead since 3

    The one thing that I seriously miss is pointing Gnome-Control-Center : Background to a directory of pictures
    and it retaining that as my perferred Desktop Background Picture location.

    Generally, it should default to "/usr/share/backgrounds".

    Every since 3.x, no dice. I have to use "Wallch" to retain and change my wallpaper.

    Speaking on Gnome-Control-Center, it looks awfully a lot like my MAC's Control Center.

    What really pisses me off is that GTK3 is inheriting most of these oxymorons; such as, the pull-off menus which allowed you to drag-off the buffers menu in GVIM.
    Probably not related, but Gnome guys develop on GTK as well.

    Look at gnome-classic: I open the applications menu and find if I click through the containers, the underlying menus disappear.
    You have to hover.

    To some up,
    Gnome is being run by amateurs.

    Bad thing is we all got to eat that sandwich.

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  • danielnez1
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    Originally posted by Honton View Post
    You are just trying to cover up the fact that KDE is dying. There is no trend pre-KDE4 which is the same as the current death struggle.



    Ohloh as a tool have no problems. Some readings might be wrong IF the measurement is not governed, and the tree goes obsolete or whatever. This is NOT the case with KDE, where mamarok manages it. You must be really desperate if you write off Ohloh as a tool because you don't like the fact that KDE is dying. In fact it is not really nice of you to point fingers at Ohloh. They are a free service to open source.
    That is a pretty graph, however I'd say the only distortion field is your own, however fortunately it only seems to effect you.

    I also don't see anyone writing off Ohloh either, they are just simply identifying its limitations, which is something that you do as part of critical and rational thinking.

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  • TheBlackCat
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    Originally posted by Honton View Post
    Which leads us to the fact that feature branches goes nowhere in KDE and haven't for the last few years.
    Yes, that is right. The frameworks 5 branches have not been merged yet. Therefore, a lot of the work going into KDE right now, and over the last few years, is not being counted.

    Also, you are ignoring that, unlike svn, git commits are often squashed before merging, which means the number of git commits will always be lower than the number of svn ones.

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  • TheBlackCat
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    The problem here is simple: Ohloh only tracks a single git branch. Since the switch to git, KDE development has been moving more and more into individual feature branches, something that was not done with SVN. Ohloh doesn't see any code put into those. A lot of work is also being done in scratch repos that did not exist in the SVN days and are not tracked by Ohloh, either. So the numbers are completely and utterly useless for the purpose you are trying to use them for. You would know this with about 30 seconds of checking on Ohloh, but of course you didn't do that.
    Last edited by TheBlackCat; 31 August 2013, 06:54 AM.

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  • TheBlackCat
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    Originally posted by Honton View Post
    Im not comparing numbers across different sources. Im comparing trends. And the trend shows the same. KDE id dying.
    A blatant lie. You ignored the two trends and tried to compare absolute numbers. It is right there for everyone to see.

    Originally posted by Honton View Post
    Ohloh useless? File a bug to the Ohloh KDE manager.
    The problems with Ohloh have already been discussed. You didn't refute those problems then. Now you are pretending that whole conversation didn't happen. Do you really think everyone will just forget things that happened a few pages?

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  • TheBlackCat
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    So now are you not only totally ignoring what I have said (comparing SVN to GIT numbers, for example), you are back to relying on the utterly useless Ohloh numbers. Thanks for proving to everyone just how dishonest you are willing to be to smear KDE.

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  • TheBlackCat
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    Originally posted by Honton View Post
    (Emphasis mine)
    Haha. So you are calling the current situation a "similar drop"? Let me educate you. KDE has so few commits right now, that you need to go back to 2005 to see a similar situation. And if August is going to end bad as expected you have to go back to f...ing 2003. KDE is dying.

    But thanks anyway for sharing the count on KDE commits from the mailing lists. It shows the same trend as Ohloh and the commit digests.
    *sigh* Does your dishonesty really know no bounds?

    First, the commit digest only counts people who have volunteered to have their commits counted, while the numbers in the plots are total commits. That will always be lower. Second, git commits are different than svn ones, those numbers will also always be lower.

    The import thing is the trend, which you asked for then promptly ignored when you got it.

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  • bwat47
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    Originally posted by Honton View Post
    Total denial eh? One of KDE's main distributions are going down the drain, Gnome3 is confirmed for RHEL7 and you guys are talking about Gnome feeling pressure??
    Kubuntu is not 'going down the drain'... And even if it was (which it isn't) there are other major kde distros such as opensuse.

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  • TheBlackCat
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    Originally posted by Honton View Post
    Sources, please.
    http://dot.kde.org/2009/07/14/growth...e-contributors

    KDE 4.0 was released at the beginning of 2008. There was a steady drop in contributors in the year prior to the release, followed by a surge immediately after.

    http://kde.mcamen.de/statistics.html

    Here you can see a lull in the number of commits ending around a year before the 4.0 release.
    Last edited by TheBlackCat; 30 August 2013, 12:06 PM.

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  • TheBlackCat
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    Originally posted by Honton View Post
    Total denial eh? One of KDE's main distributions are going down the drain, Gnome3 is confirmed for RHEL7 and you guys are talking about Gnome feeling pressure??
    Kubuntu has never been one of KDE's "main distributions". Ubuntu has always been far more a "main distribution" for Gnome than Kubuntu has ever been for KDE. There is a reason pretty much no KDE developers use Kubuntu, and it has been that way as long as Kubuntu has existed.

    Again, you are just making stuff up.

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