GNOME Playing Around With New Middle-Click Action

[n3wu53r]

I agree that commits doesn't matter much and code maturity matters. You would of course already know this if you read my posts carefully. Too bad you are reverting to strawman tactics now. Look at the number of contributors. The developers are leaving KDE because KDE is dying.

First if you look at Ohloh's code locations for KDE, you see their entire infrastructure is there. Not just KDE desktop, but other applications that use KDE's hosting infrastructure. Like Kria, Calligra, JuK, DigiKam. Many of those aren't really directly kde affiliated, but use KDE libs and infrastructure. Many old projects people have created there are left abandoned. Like Qyoto
and the unnofficial oxygen fonts. The fonts repo doesn't get much commits lately and is counted as a drop, but is unnofficial and not done by KDE but a third party, just using their infrastructure. You can see what ohloh counts here. http://www.ohloh.net/p/kde/enlistments

Now here is were Ohloh numbers get REALLY shady every since KDE's move to git, both of us could be wrong: https://plus.google.com/107555540696...ts/J2X6zuThHGW

Oh. Another one stated KDE needed KF5 to do away with long standing bugs. Make up your mind guys.

KDE is a huge project with lots of code. It's older then gnome so has a older code base. Yeah some would call KDE bloated and a bit buggy sometimes, and some of it's true and they have been improving this every release. Here's the thing though. New developers come to a project, and old ones go. Not everyone in the 1990s working on KDE has stayed, and many have moved on. Same with gnome and any other project. The same people don't stay around forever. New faces come, old ones go. New people are not be familiar with code written by old devs years and years:ago (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor ). Over time code bitrots, many lower levels peices are hard to understand and read, and it becomes convulted. Many bugs are so old because they are so hard to trace down and fix because of the ancient codebase. Eventually you have to refactor and rewrite components. Gnome did this with gnome 3 so they don't have to worry about it so much right now. But Gnome 2 suffered from this in it's later years, and KDE4 is doing so too.

[n3wu53r]

You already got the Ohloh numbers. Showing KDE is DOOMED

I just went ahead at took a look on the monthly average for five digests near July month of 2013, 2012 and 2011. Based on KDE commit digests.

2011: 230 contributors, 2490 commits
2012: 192 contributors, 2230 commits
2013: 164 contributors, 1960 commits

Sorry but like Ohloh and the commit digest agrees. KDE is DYING Now deal with the facts, and don't shoot the messenger.

Your insane. KDE4 is mature and pretty much done. Of course commits are going down. Look at mesa commits. They have been dropping constantly since 2010. So mesa is dead? Quite the opposite. It's called maturity.

[n3wu53r]

Sure everything will be juuuust fine witk KDE, waiting for the nex Pie In The Sky Thank you for saying it loud and clear, KDE4 will go nowhere and haven't for the last few releases.

It's almost like your illiterate.
KDE devs are not so stupid as to make massive changes to KDE4 at the end of its life cycle. Why would they do that
It's mature software. Using your logic gnome was dead during the entire gnome2 era, was brought back to life with 3.0 and is dead again today since each release isn't full of sweeping changes on every component.

[n3wu53r]

More fallacy from Honton! He's the new funkSTAR.
Now I didn't read the whole thread but forgive me if someone else already posted this:
Even KDE agrees sometimes you need to remove some features, or change defaults. I usually am very pro QT and pro KDE but I can't hate gnome for this. Yeah, some features they removed without a good reason or replacement, but they are trying to do something new here.
As for KDE developers agreeing: https://plus.google.com/115606635748...ts/BRaQbvKqrYC

[LinuxGamer]

Yes, clearly the rewrite of some of the most important plasma applets, including the taskbar, in which they became easier to maintain, compatible with Wayland and largely bug-free, is an indication that KDE is stale and dying.

you know what the best part is KDE will ship on a tablet before Ubuntu but ohh wait it's too stale to do that

[GreatEmerald]

Let us assume that is correct; No new features. And since the last couple of KDE releases add nothing new it is very fair to say KDE is stale. Sorry, but KDE is dying.

Yes, clearly the rewrite of some of the most important plasma applets, including the taskbar, in which they became easier to maintain, compatible with Wayland and largely bug-free, is an indication that KDE is stale and dying.

[TheBlackCat]

Nearly every GUI is ported to QML which means mostly a gui revamp, addionaly cause of the spitting KDELIbs can be used by projects like RazorQt, LXDE-Qt or by Qt applicatoins in general which is similar to that what already heapens in Projects like Firefox or even in Qt apps (Clementine).

Honton knows this, it has been explained to him/her dozens of times. Honton is just a dishonest troll.

[JS987]

Let us assume that is correct; No new features. And since the last couple of KDE releases add nothing new it is very fair to say KDE is stale. Sorry, but KDE is dying.

KDE has already too many features. Many of them are just useless bloat which just slows down system. More bloat isn't needed.

[danielnez1]

The plot should really be about Gnome having added Gnome-tweak-tool as a feature. Doing this they added a switch to change the behavior of middle click. No one seems to care about that instead they go hyperbolic about Gnome flipfloping on the default setting. Im just telling you why, those haters knows what is coming. Gnome does fine, KDE is dying.

Anyway what do I care? KDE is dying no matter how much you deny it. Go look at latest KDE digest and compare it to the similar ones of year 2012 and 2011. KDE is dying.

If GNOME had listened to their users in the first place and included the options people wanted in the first place, even as preference options then there would be no need for a token gesture like the tweak tool. But thats for another discussion.

Yet again you are continuing your deluded rant about KDE dying, but yet again fail to show any evidence.

[Thaodan]

Let us assume that is correct; No new features. And since the last couple of KDE releases add nothing new it is very fair to say KDE is stale. Sorry, but KDE is dying.

Nearly every GUI is ported to QML which means mostly a gui revamp, addionaly cause of the spitting KDELIbs can be used by projects like RazorQt, LXDE-Qt or by Qt applicatoins in general which is similar to that what already heapens in Projects like Firefox or even in Qt apps (Clementine).