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Canonical Details Ubuntu 24.04 Desktop Plans + Ongoing X11 Sunsetting Discussions
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Originally posted by mrg666 View PostThose malicious translations can be avoided by using AI to do the translations. I expect even the code development will be done by AI.
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Originally posted by mSparks View Postyes, although I was referring more to this title implying there was "ongoing X11 sunsetting discussions".
Greetings! In this post I share highlights from the Desktop team’s roadmap for Ubuntu 24.04 LTS. It’s important to remember that plans change and misses do and will happen. If you would like some insight into our guiding values when constructing the roadmap check out the Desktop’s core values. Okay, let’s jump in! Figure 1. Photo by Markus Spiske on Upsplash Provisioning I’ve written previously about a vision for desktop provisioning in Naught to productivity. This cycle we’re working on th...
There are ongoing discussions about sun setting X11. In Ubuntu 24.04 LTS we’re not ready to make that leap. For this cycle, we’ve decided to audit the state of NVIDIA + Wayland to define the signals we want to see in order to make that call.
Debian and Ubuntu are working out when they will drop bare metal X11 server support. Its really when not if at this point mSparks because the only part of the discussion now is when will they do it not if they should. It really does look like in best case Ubuntu/Debian will have x11 bare metal a year longer than RH10. Worst case they drop same year as RH10.
Yes mSparks running to Debian or Ubuntu to attempt to avoid X11 bare metal going way is basically not going to work because both debian and ubuntu have made the decision that they will be removing bare metal X11 server at some point. The exact point is all that being debated.
SUSE question over it give the same answer as Debian and Ubuntu people that they are also sun setting X11 bare metal server at some point the point is not 100 percent decided yet.
This is also a bit of history above you would be overlooking as well mSparks. Yes 2006 was when the idea started that X11 server would cease to have bare metal DDX instead depend on opengl standards instead.
So yes get use to the new Wayland compositor+xwayland workflow because that is the one that going to be left.
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Originally posted by mSparks View PostRH10 is 2024 and is going to be exclusively for wayland applications. That's not under discussion any more.
RedHat 10 release is planned to be in 2025
RH10 is 2025 not 2024. I have pointed this out to you a few times.
There is still a Year for Nvidia to get house in order before RH10 release.
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Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
nvidia works just fine with wayland apps btw. The only things that dont work with nvidia on wayland is intentionally disabled by the wayland protocol, and afaik there is no discussion by anyone to get them working.Last edited by mSparks; 16 December 2023, 07:33 PM.
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Originally posted by mSparks View PostRH10 is just a fork of FC40 with the redhat logo which releases April 2024.
Fedora 41 will be released before RH10. And F42 will most likely released before RH10
RH10 will not be a fork off F40. Instead RH10 will be off either F41 or F42 and possible mix between 41 and 42 (this has happened before).
You forgot Fedora releases twice per year.
May 27, 2025 Yes 5 month that the marked RH10 release date. Target date 2025-04-22 for F42 this is one month before RH10 release date.
The release dates of RH10 are lined up to be based off F42.
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