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Originally posted by gfunk
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Installed the beta version, indeed no fractional scaling
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They have an in-house developed compositor called cosmic-comp and no dependencies to Mutter are listed. Even if, I have no problems with Mutter, but the whole Gnome project is just a desktop wishing to run on touch devices, but no one but literally 5 people around the globe uses it on them. The problem is that the desktop is, as I said, a ressource hog without features and some preinstalled apps with no special features at all. No one needs another Sudoku app or a Map app which is Google Maps ordered at Wish. The main users of the Linux Desktop are power users and no kiddos, and even the kiddos don´t play Sudoku.Originally posted by QwertyChouskie View PostComment
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As I recall, at GUADEC this year the Ubuntu speaker said Canonical aims to bundle the latest GNOME release with their Ubuntu releases.Originally posted by oldtimefighter View PostComment
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Interesting. I genuinely hope it works excellently on release, but given how many years (decades?) it took to get Mutter and Kwin working solidly, I'm... a bit skeptical it will be working well enough for a 24.04 release.Originally posted by Julien Bear View Post
As someone who has ran Gnome on a 2-in-1, trust me, Gnome is not made for touchscreens. I'm honestly not sure where this (surprisingly common) misconception comes from, but the current touchscreen experience on Gnome quite frankly sucks. There's work to improve the touchscreen experience with the experimental project to port Gnome Shell to run on phones (which is an exciting project, but that's a different discussion for a different time), but very, very little of that code has landed upstream yet (and the code that has landed is just backend architecture stuff).Originally posted by Julien Bear View Post
Gnome provides a list of recommended pre-install applications (https://apps.gnome.org/), but the actual pre-install list is ultimately decided by your distro of choice. Of note, Sudoku is not included in the official list. Also, pre-installed apps don't hog running resources (CPU/RAM/GPU/etc), only a few MB of drive space. (Thankfully desktop Linux has generally avoided the classic Windows pitfall of seemingly every app wanting to launch at boot and run in the system tray.)Originally posted by Julien Bear View Post
(also sudoku is an underrated game IMHO)Comment
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They both don´t work solidly, after years, that is the problem. I want a desktop without endless bugs and stuttering on low end to high end hardware. Others mentioned on another thread that Gnome is a performance disaster, in general and compared to Cosmic:Originally posted by QwertyChouskie View Post
If Cosmic runs smooth on low end hardware, that is reason enough for me to use it even in Alpha or Beta stage.
Maybe it is a false claim but afaic It was dumbed down for tablet users because touch was the new trend at this time. That is the reason for huge buttons and sandwich menus.Originally posted by QwertyChouskie View Post
It sucks at touch despite those "optimisations" which is double the shame .
No blame to the developers, but there are so many other software projects which don´t get the attention they deserve.
I refered to the bloat and junk apps seperatley. When it is bloat but all it can deliver is some junk apps, there is no reason to use it.Originally posted by QwertyChouskie View Post
It is quite simple, though.Originally posted by QwertyChouskie View Post
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The first link is just someone wondering what performance might be like, the second definitely shows some promise though. However, looking at the issue tracker for cosmic-comp, a lot of basic functionality seems to be missing/broken right now. As necessary features are added and major bugs are fixed, it's very likely that it will reduce performance by some amount, though how much remains to be seen. (Look at prototype Webrender vs the Webrender that actually shipped as part of Firefox. The prototype was much faster at certain tasks, but had a ton of major rendering bugs and missing functionality with complex real-world websites and such.)Originally posted by Julien Bear View PostThey both don´t work solidly, after years, that is the problem. I want a desktop without endless bugs and stuttering on low end to high end hardware. Others mentioned on another thread that Gnome is a performance disaster, in general and compared to Cosmic:
If Cosmic runs smooth on low end hardware, that is reason enough for me to use it even in Alpha or Beta stage.
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