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Originally posted by QwertyChouskie View Post
If I'm not mistaken, the new Cosmic DE will still use Mutter, so changes to Mutter will still be applicable to you most likely.
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Originally posted by oldtimefighter View Post
How does the GNOME schedule tell me what version ships with Ubuntu 23.10? LOL Everything I have read states GNOME 45 will be included. The last two Ubuntu releases had the latest GNOME version. It does get dicey when it's LTS time.
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Originally posted by Julien Bear View PostThey have an in-house developed compositor called cosmic-comp and no dependencies to Mutter are listed.
Originally posted by Julien Bear View PostEven if, I have no problems with Mutter, but the whole Gnome project is just a desktop wishing to run on touch devices, but no one but literally 5 people around the globe uses it on them.
Originally posted by Julien Bear View PostThe problem is that the desktop is, as I said, a ressource hog without features and some preinstalled apps with no special features at all. No one needs another Sudoku app or a Map app which is Google Maps ordered at Wish. The main users of the Linux Desktop are power users and no kiddos, and even the kiddos donĀ“t play Sudoku.
(also sudoku is an underrated game IMHO)
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Originally posted by QwertyChouskie View Post
Interesting. I genuinely hope it works excellently on release, but given how many years (decades?) it took to get Mutter and Kwin working solidly, I'm... a bit skeptical it will be working well enough for a 24.04 release.
Phoronix: COSMIC Desktop Implements Fractional Scaling, Wallpaper Settings System76 developers working on their Rust-written COSMIC desktop have recently been improving a number of areas of this open-source desktop... https://www.phoronix.com/news/COSMIC-For-July
Phoronix: COSMIC Desktop Implements Fractional Scaling, Wallpaper Settings System76 developers working on their Rust-written COSMIC desktop have recently been improving a number of areas of this open-source desktop... https://www.phoronix.com/news/COSMIC-For-July
If Cosmic runs smooth on low end hardware, that is reason enough for me to use it even in Alpha or Beta stage.
Originally posted by QwertyChouskie View PostAs someone who has ran Gnome on a 2-in-1, trust me, Gnome is not made for touchscreens. I'm honestly not sure where this (surprisingly common) misconception comes from, but the current touchscreen experience on Gnome quite frankly sucks. There's work to improve the touchscreen experience with the experimental project to port Gnome Shell to run on phones (which is an exciting project, but that's a different discussion for a different time), but very, very little of that code has landed upstream yet (and the code that has landed is just backend architecture stuff).
It sucks at touch despite those "optimisations" which is double the shame .
No blame to the developers, but there are so many other software projects which donĀ“t get the attention they deserve.
Originally posted by QwertyChouskie View PostGnome provides a list of recommended pre-install applications (https://apps.gnome.org/), but the actual pre-install list is ultimately decided by your distro of choice. Of note, Sudoku is not included in the official list. Also, pre-installed apps don't hog running resources (CPU/RAM/GPU/etc), only a few MB of drive space. (Thankfully desktop Linux has generally avoided the classic Windows pitfall of seemingly every app wanting to launch at boot and run in the system tray.)
Originally posted by QwertyChouskie View Post(also sudoku is an underrated game IMHO)
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Originally posted by Julien Bear View PostThey both donĀ“t work solidly, after years, that is the problem. I want a desktop without endless bugs and stuttering on low end to high end hardware. Others mentioned on another thread that Gnome is a performance disaster, in general and compared to Cosmic:
Phoronix: COSMIC Desktop Implements Fractional Scaling, Wallpaper Settings System76 developers working on their Rust-written COSMIC desktop have recently been improving a number of areas of this open-source desktop... https://www.phoronix.com/news/COSMIC-For-July
Phoronix: COSMIC Desktop Implements Fractional Scaling, Wallpaper Settings System76 developers working on their Rust-written COSMIC desktop have recently been improving a number of areas of this open-source desktop... https://www.phoronix.com/news/COSMIC-For-July
If Cosmic runs smooth on low end hardware, that is reason enough for me to use it even in Alpha or Beta stage.
Originally posted by Julien Bear View PostMaybe it is a false claim but afaic It was dumbed down for tablet users because touch was the new trend at this time. That is the reason for huge buttons and sandwich menus.
It sucks at touch despite those "optimisations" which is double the shame .
No blame to the developers, but there are so many other software projects which donĀ“t get the attention they deserve.
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