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  • #31
    Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
    There’s no need for 1.21.0
    Xwayland fixes can go into 1.20.x
    X.org is more than XWayland and there are certainly more benefits to releasing 1.21 than XWayland fixes (RTFA).
    But then you already knew that, and as usual, you think no one's use cases and preferences except yours matter. But, by all means, keep on shilling. Apparently, Michael loves it.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Britoid View Post

      Then some other people need to come and maintain it then.
      Thanks, I didn't know Xorg is so smart that it keeps itself updated without any human ... hands.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by royce View Post
        Weren't we promised some news this year on open source support by nvidia?
        It was never clear whether there would be any announcement of real actual support (although some people got their fantasies started), or perhaps just better toleration on the signed firmware front, but had GTC happened the session would have been interesting. For now we are back to waiting for information (as last I checked the virtual GTC sessions did not appear to include that talk).

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        • #34
          Originally posted by CommunityMember View Post

          It was never clear whether there would be any announcement of real actual support (although some people got their fantasies started), or perhaps just better toleration on the signed firmware front, but had GTC happened the session would have been interesting. For now we are back to waiting for information (as last I checked the virtual GTC sessions did not appear to include that talk).
          There was a presentation from last year I think that explained using the open source drivers (including GBM) with Tegra chip, which gave a good indicator.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by middy View Post
            display servers are hard. look at wayland, almost 11 years and hasn't replaced xorg yet. and wayland has a lot of development behind it. along with millions poured into it by companies like red hat. if you're going to fork you need a massive movement to follow. like when xfree86 got forked to xorg. nearly all the development team behind xfree went to xorg. there's just no reason to fork xorg atm. especially when a sizable chunk of the community has a hate hard-on for xorg.
            But Arcan has has reached feature-parity with X.org and Arcan has been in development for a relatively short time now, so it can't be that hard.
            Last edited by Vistaus; 03-30-2020, 12:11 PM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
              pieman No one seek to replace xorg.
              Then tell me why Arcan display server was created?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
                TemplarGR Most of Red Hat’s team now work directly on Mutter.

                So who is gonna fo the half year worth of release engineering and another 5 years of maintenance?

                Not Red Hat.
                Not Canonical.
                Not SUSE.
                Not Debian.
                Not GNOME.
                Then why did they even implement new features on the 1.21 branch? Seems like that was a waste of time then...
                Last edited by Vistaus; 03-30-2020, 12:11 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by royce View Post
                  wlroots sees actual live usage by people and is pretty polished. The downside is no nvidia proprietary driver support - I can understand the argument against, but the truth is a lot of people out there use nvidia.

                  Weren't we promised some news this year on open source support by nvidia?
                  Who are these "lots of people"? Most laptops and even desktops don't even have NVIDIA GPU's anymore nowadays (as in: the past 6 years and even to this very day). Yes, you can put an NVIDIA card in yourself, but the majority of people don't do that.
                  Last edited by Vistaus; 03-30-2020, 12:12 PM.

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                  • #39
                    DanL That’s like your opinion man.. And your opinion doesn’t matter.

                    The only thing that matters are capable devs who are willing to take on the huge task of releasing and maintaining 1.21. Right now no one is willing to do that.

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                    • #40
                      Vistaus Why is that a problem? Writing code is cheap. Releasing and maintaining code is expensive.

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