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Originally posted by niniendowarrior View PostOh Svartalf, is this the end of our ATi cynical days?
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Originally posted by Svartalf View PostHeh... I don't know- if they DO keep up at this rate as long as they don't have silicon boo-boos, I think so. I remain on the fence a little longer to see what all they hand us based off of the promises we're about to be given at noon EDT today.
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Originally posted by Michael View PostXipeos and Opera, do I have to tell you two to stop fighting?
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostDon't judge a driver by it's version. Someone suggested the 8.41 means the 41 release of the 8th year. Not everyone is using the same versioning system as the kernel devs.
Even the linux kernel has changed versioning scheme over the years.
But to the facts; I'd be surprised to see any program being heavily rewritten from version x.yz into x.y[z+1]. I've never seen it before, but some time should be the first time, they say.
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostOf course you can opera. A couple of dedicated programmers can do it in...two weeks? wtf do you know?! You're just an angry user.
* Two weeks would be a suitable last test-period from last Release Candidate to Release. Why do I know this?:
* No, I'm not an angry user. I'm a programmer. Have been for a decade. Been developing in several languages on DOS/Win32/Linux, mostly in C and C++.
I would like to know where you get the idea that someone could port a newly released ATI driver to RandR 1.2 in two weeks (and not have something extremely broken and buggy and only worth a complete re-write or two).
Have you even once written a single line of code? It doesn't sound like it. Your immature view on open source, seems the equal on programming in general.
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostEDIT: you don't have to re-write the whole driver for randr. You can just build an interface that translates randr requests to DDM (like wine and cedega do with their compatibility layer).
Just making your first build of X.org succeed takes a lot of time.
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostYou'd do it for yourself. You can pay yourself if you want to... (but then again, you're just an angry user, not a programmer (?) )
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostCan't take a little challenge, you wuss?
You lost the discussion, please, do it gracefully.
This is tasteless.
I have my challenge already, and it lies in Avivo, and I'm probably failing there since I haven't touched that code in a few weeks.
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostAgain with the wussing. As of now, we know very little about AMD's open-source initiative. And even if they shifted all the work on us, it would be much better then what we had so far. They way I remember it, *many* people were asking for the shift (even you - "give it to x.org hackers" remember?!)
* x86-64
* Moderm linux versions
* Modern X.org
* A computer with a black metal case and a blue power light
* In a room with only 1 window
* Any other obscure reason
I prefer positive surprises, over negative ones.
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostFine be skeptical, I won't comment on your bitching anymore.
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Look you two, just end it and stop fighting. There's no point to it. If you two think that fighting is the mature way of handling things, go create a new thread in the general discussion but don't taint this thread or any other on-topic ones.Michael Larabel
https://www.michaellarabel.com/
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Originally posted by Michael View PostLook you two, just end it and stop fighting. There's no point to it. If you two think that fighting is the mature way of handling things, go create a new thread in the general discussion but don't taint this thread or any other on-topic ones.
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@opera:
You have every right to be skeptical about the new driver. For the last years, ATI has done everything to disappoint Linux users. They just have to earn back our trust by actually publishing a better driver instead of just talking about it.
But please stop turning this thread into an private war against people who just haven't learned to distinguish between marketing talk and facts.
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As a former ATI owner, who jumped boat just because of the many driver issues, with the release of the information and numbers of the Phoronix articles in regards to fglrx 8.41, I must say I'm excited again about ATI on Linux. I don't know if I'll jump boat just yet, but definitely news worth keeping an eye on.
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