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FYI, the Radeon HD 2400 and Radeon HD 2600 results will be published this Friday.
It looks like we may have at least one graphics article a day each week day (and possibly weekends) leading up to the official 8.41 driver release.Michael Larabel
https://www.michaellarabel.com/
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Originally posted by Michael View PostFYI, the Radeon HD 2400 and Radeon HD 2600 results will be published this Friday.
It looks like we may have at least one graphics article a day each week day (and possibly weekends) leading up to the official 8.41 driver release.
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I repeat my questions
I repeat my questions about new 8.41 driver, anyone can ansewr me?
1- News about Hypermemory? (very important for mobility)
2- News about fan control?
3- News about suspend/resume problem? (specially for Fedora 7)
4- With ATI Mobility X300 and new driver is possible to play with Flightgear and use Cedega? (with Windows Vista I can play with many games (PES6,VSK5, ...) at high quality details)
Please answer me, thanks.
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Personally I'd really like to see a clear answer on the status of support for the AGP X1600Pro.
I have a 512mb card that currently is recognized incorrectly as PCIE, resulting in the 0x AGP mode and the driver only sees 256mb of the 512mb of vid mem.
This effectively makes the card useless for almost any 3d application.
That aside, great news today! I look forward to further news. Thanks for all the information Michael!
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Originally posted by Xipeos View PostYou were predicting doom with no knowledge of the driver.
And yes, I have the same knowledge of the driver as everyone else. It sucks as of now. So, we can expect it to suck. I'd say, predictions about it still will suck, are more reasonable than the others.
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostSince the new driver has a new (and different) codebase, you can't use the old drivers for your predictions.
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostAccording to Michael, this new driver has been in the works for a very long time, not just the 1-month development time allocated to previous drivers.
Also, since the old driver is likely going to be trashed, there was little reason for the dev/financial team to support a soon-to-be-obsolete driver, hence the lack of any real improvement
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostAny definitive evidence of randr superiority? Anyway, if the new driver will be open-sourced, you can just hack randr support into it.
* Easy management of monitor layout (one tool for all your computers, whatever driver they have).
* Sub-pixel knowledge for smooth font rendering even with:
* Rotation support
* Auto resizing the desktop on hardware plug-in/out
And it's clear that you've gotten a media-biased and very unrealistic view on open source. You think that just because it's open source, all problems are solved? "you can just hack randr support into it." What?
Let me tell you a few things;
* It's not "just" soemthing to add.
* I've bought an ATI card. Why should I for free make their drivers better? Open source doesn't mean "let other people do the hard work for free"
* If ATI still control the project, instead of being community centered, my (or others) patches might not be merged, and am I supposed to support and release my own versions of the driver? The word "Windows" pops up in my head.
* RandR may very well heavily conflict with what's used in the drivers, so a merge might be very hard. Especially for someone new to the source tree.
Get realistic, will ya?
It's sad to see what might happen when people like you comment on things like this. Imagine in the future, the "open source" ATI driver lacks TV-out, and people complain about this (they bought a card with TV-out support). Will you tell them "it's open source, implement that yourself"? That's just disgusting.
Open source has absolutely nothing to do with the manufacturer's responsibilities. You can't just move the responsibility to the end-user because you give them the source code.
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostWhen did that happen?!
Originally posted by Xipeos View PostAgain, you can't use the old crappy-driver pattern for the new one.
Originally posted by Xipeos View Post1 week from now, if the new driver is as bad as you say, we'll all hail you as the new Nostradamus predictor@home. Until then stfu, you have no real basis for your predictions.
Come on ffs. I don't see much good at ATI, and I am rather skeptical of the new drivers. Don't I have the right to be skeptical?
Even the better if I happen to be completely wrong. For crying out loud, I'd be happy to be completely wrong.Last edited by opera; 06 September 2007, 05:48 AM.
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Originally posted by opera View PostI still think you're referring to another driver. We're still talking another minor version of fglrx 8.4x.
Originally posted by operaAnd it's clear that you've gotten a media-biased and very unrealistic view on open source. You think that just because it's open source, all problems are solved? "you can just hack randr support into it." What?
Let me tell you a few things;
* It's not "just" soemthing to add.
EDIT: you don't have to re-write the whole driver for randr. You can just build an interface that translates randr requests to DDM (like wine and cedega do with their compatibility layer).
Originally posted by opera* I've bought an ATI card. Why should I for free make their drivers better? Open source doesn't mean "let other people do the hard work for free"
Originally posted by opera* RandR may very well heavily conflict with what's used in the drivers, so a merge might be very hard. Especially for someone new to the source tree.
Originally posted by operaOpen source has absolutely nothing to do with the manufacturer's responsibilities. You can't just move the responsibility to the end-user because you give them the source code.
Originally posted by operaCome on ffs. I don't see much good at ATI, and I am rather skeptical of the new drivers.
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