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  • #51
    Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
    Name recognition is not the problem here - it is about verifiability. The games here are known to be solid and use the same back-ends (for the most part) on both Linux and Windows, and therefore are better for benchmarking the driver. Benchmarking a game under Wine would be a huge joke as the fact that it is not native would put overhead on Linux simply because it is not being ran natively. This is not about showing what games you can run on your Intel cards, but rather the state of the drivers.
    You state your opinions as if they were the ultimate truth, but they aren?t.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by stqn View Post
      You state your opinions as if they were the ultimate truth, but they aren?t.
      Care to actually respond to my "opinions" then?

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      • #53
        It doesnt have enough benchmarks to really show the state of the drivers. It doesnt show how it performs with wine. It doesnt show how it performs with Unigine engine. It doesnt show how it performs with any steam game.

        All it shows is on the benchmarks run the linux Intel driver is sometimes slower than the windows Intel driver. But that isnt what the article title says. That is not what the conclusion says.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by ua=42 View Post
          Well, check this out http://jaysonrowe.blogspot.com/2013/...kde-users.html . Basically it's a bad default setting in KDE. KDE should change the default. Micheal's tests shows that when the default KDE is used, it under-performs compared to the other desktops with their defaults.
          These tests were with the suspended desktop effects for full-screen windows.
          Michael Larabel
          http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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          • #55
            Originally posted by stqn View Post
            Thanks for the article. I hope in the future it will be possible to benchmark more ?mainstream? games, games from the Humble Bundles maybe (yes, some of them are slow), Valve/steam games, or popular Windows games under Wine.
            New PTS/OpenBenchmarking.org test profiles are happily accepted.
            Michael Larabel
            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Michael View Post
              These tests were with the suspended desktop effects for full-screen windows.
              Hi Michael, if you'll see the top of my blog post, Martin Gr??lin who is the Kwin and Compositor maintainer for KDE told me that simply suspending desktop effects for full-screen windows doesn't have that much effect. You should try either doing alt+shift+f12 to disable compositing, or Alt+F3 -> More Actions -> Special Window Settigns -> Appearance & Fixes and enable block compositing/force/yes which will basically create a "rule" that whenever that game is started, compositing will be suspended completely automatically (basically the same thing as alt+shift_f12, but you don't have to remember to do it each time).

              Once I did this, I really noticed a difference.

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              • #57
                Here I tested 3 cards with all Killing Floor renderes on Highest. Pretty interesting I would say...

                http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410...4089658431267/

                Of course I used KDE 4.8 with Kanotix.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
                  Where I need to to put this?
                  This may be useful to you when using source engine based games

                  https://developer.valvesoftware.com/...e_Command_List

                  Or SS3

                  http://www.serioussam.wikia.com/wiki...nsole_Commands
                  Last edited by DDF420; 03-23-2013, 09:06 PM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by DDF420 View Post
                    This may be useful to you when using source engine based games

                    https://developer.valvesoftware.com/...e_Command_List

                    Or SS3

                    http://www.serioussam.wikia.com/wiki...nsole_Commands
                    Nice! Thank you!

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by j2723 View Post
                      Michael, could you do similar benchmarks for other Distributions? Would be interesting...
                      Goal! Unfortunately, Phoronix use only Ubuntu with all of its package dependences and not pure neccessary processes. Try use light distros like Archlinux, Debian or Gentoo and light WM/DE in comparison with complex distros like Fedora, OpenSuse, Mandriva, Mageia, (some)Ubuntu etc. I insist on that light distros wit light WM/DE can run more quickly than full Ubuntu installation. Why? Compare system load and communication with HW an you will see. You may also compile a special testing distro with minimum of GUI (apps and frontends needed only) to get "net" results.
                      Last edited by pjezek; 03-31-2013, 11:43 AM.

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