What Do You Want To See Out Of The Redesigned, Next-Gen Raspberry Pi?

[pal666]

Already at $7.50 you get an 800Mhz RISC-V dual core + 500Top int 8 vector unit... add LPDDR ram support

arm cores are cheaper, you are trying to compare cores with boards

[pal666]

no more broadcom and a discrete graphics chip.

broadcom is the only linux-supporting arm vendor, so you are trying to inflict pain on yourself. not that i'm going to stop you

[cb88]

arm cores are cheaper, you are trying to compare cores with boards

ARM cores are decidedly not cheaper, ARM has licensing costs when produced at the same volume RISC-V will always be cheaper due to no licensing costs.

The main reason I dislike the ARM based boards is all the proprietary crap you have to deal with to use them... for no real reason. I'd rather implement some of my projects on a fast microcontroller than an RPi most times.

[andreano]

Success criteria:
* M.2
* Boot & Graphics: Best upstream driver wins.
* Enough™ RAM

Nice haves:
* A55
* DDR-DIMM
* USB3
* Wide power input (6S LiPo)

Can be sacrificed if it saves cost:
* SD card
* With USB3: Ethernet and wifi

[pal666]

ARM cores are decidedly not cheaper,

allwinners cost less than $5, you can have entire board for $10

ARM has licensing costs when produced at the same volume RISC-V will always be cheaper due to no licensing costs.

irrelevant as long as arms are produced in much larger volumes

The main reason I dislike the ARM based boards is all the proprietary crap you have to deal with to use them... for no real reason. I'd rather implement some of my projects on a fast microcontroller than an RPi most times.

you are free to dislike them, but it does not make risc-v cheaper

[hotaru]

broadcom is the only linux-supporting arm vendor, so you are trying to inflict pain on yourself. not that i'm going to stop you

there's also Allwinner and Rockchip...

you are free to dislike them, but it does not make risc-v cheaper

RISC-V is cheaper if you're building your own chip. the only reason ARM chips are cheaper is that buying an existing mass-produced chip is cheaper than making a new one.

[bemerk]

I use it mostly as Multi Media Hub for my TV.
So i want
- support for hevc& av1 in hardware for 4k
- widevine level 1 certification for a linux Like raspbian
- enough cpu power to fallback to Software decryption for at least 1080p if wv isnt possible.

[cb88]

allwinners cost less than $5, you can have entire board for $10
irrelevant as long as arms are produced in much larger volumes

you are free to dislike them, but it does not make risc-v cheaper

Dunno what your angle is but RPi has always been a shitty low end ARM core... even the newer ones. At $7.5 for a large and competitive with the best in the industry microcontroller core... RISC-V is not far at all from completely eclisping ARM at the low end of things like the RPi which is failing to innovate.

The RISC-V Kendryte boards are $50 including LCD and a camera for running AI demos... you can just get a bare kendryte demo board for about $10-15 and the bare module to integrate into your own designs for $7.50

I would happily accept a slightly slower board that is 100% documented and functional out of the gate instead of the mess that has been dealt with on the RPi.

[chithanh]

Most importantly, the price needs to be not more than it is now. What else is important:

• 8+-core A53/A55 or RISC-V CPU
• 4 GB RAM
• 802.11ac Wifi / Bluetooth (and this time allow access to the FM radio antenna pin ffs)
• Support for 4K/HDR displays
• 3 USB Type-A ports
• GPIO
• FOSS system firmware and drivers

I realize that especially the 4 GB RAM is a tall order, and for $35 you presently only get Orange Pi Prime with Allwinner H5 4-core and 2 GB RAM. But I think 4 GB will be the minimum sensible configuration for the general-purpose model in 2019.

Wishlist if it fits inside the budget:

• USB Type C for power and DisplayPort
• PCIe connector (any kind like mini-PCIe, U.2, M.2, etc. would be fine)
• eDP connector
• DSC support
• Real-time clock with separate battery pin, or button cell socket
• Wide range (say, 5-20 V) power input

Not needed:

• Micro-USB if there is USB Type-C
• Ethernet
• DSI if there is eDP
• CSI
• HDMI if Type-C supports DisplayPort

[jacob]

If they can give us at least 2GB of RAM, USB 3.0 and still sell it for $35, I would be awesome.