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[chithanh]

As the NVidia driver is closed only they can tell how much work it would be. Mesa patch for GBM implementation in all Gallium3D drivers (including Nouveau)...

[chithanh]

Nope. You put words in my mouth again, and trying to hide it by splitting the quote. I said that this alone is not reason to be critical.
Also,...

[chithanh]

No, it is only to the benefit of a single manufacturer and their customers. That in itself would not be reason to be critical, but in addition this manufacturer...

[chithanh]

Others like the KWin developer have already made the technical argument, no need to do it again. I have just verified (and explained to you) why I think...

[chithanh]

Ah, you want to have the last word in the discussion. Fine with me, I can continue for a while.

There was no interaction worth mentioning...

[chithanh]

Support for Vega M has landed in mesa today
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/me...81de0d60d2f123
ht...

[chithanh]

I guess we are not finished with our exchange of ideas yet.

Due to the length of the discussion it seems that you have forgotten what...

[chithanh]

I think you are applying double standards here.
Day-to-day usable experience doesn't mean completely bug-free. This is when most of the work had...

[chithanh]

German website golem.de tested an Intel Hades Canyon NUC in Linux. The results were pretty bad:


https://www.golem.de/news/nuc8i7h...

[chithanh]

GNOME claimed "day-to-day usable experience" with Wayland for GNOME 3.14 release, September 2014, one month before the NVidia XDC EGLStreams...

[chithanh]

You need to see the context here. While NVidia did not invent EGLStreams, they were the ones to come up with the idea of using EGLStreams for Wayland....

[chithanh]

How and when Linux drivers will come is anyone's guess. Intel themselves said that they, not AMD, will provide drivers for Kaby Lake G.

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[chithanh]

Where did I say that this is happened and is ok? And to use another smart word, what you write is called Whataboutism.

Prisoner's dilemma...

[chithanh]

I know this, and it is inconsequential to the point why use of EGLStreams with Wayland needs to die (even NVidia recognizes this and has started to work...

[chithanh]

According to NVidia, GPP is designed to give greater transparency to the gamer. But neither NVidia nor OEMs will even tell who is participating in GPP...

[chithanh]

I think you are missing the point of those opposed to adding EGLStreams support.

EGLStreams isn't bad because "NVidia made it"...

[chithanh]

I think Microsoft made an effort to fix RealTimeIsUniversal, and since Vista SP2 circa 2008 it was mostly usable. Then Microsoft lost interest and some...

[chithanh]

I remember the Microsoft-Intel thing differently too.
From what I have heard, Intel came up with their own 64-bit extension to x86 after they learned...

[chithanh]

But removal of obsolete API rarely happens. (XAA and Xprint come to mind.) The X server still comes with support for long-obsolete APIs and protocol extensions...

[chithanh]

The other day, someone one Reddit discovered this in the technical documentation of an ASRock X470 mobo:
Interesting. Maybe AMD changed their course...