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  • #21
    Yeah, boycotting does neither the developer or the gamers any good. Pirating over boycotting is the way to go since at least that produces very radical figures in the developer's analytics.

    But if you want to support the developer because you enjoy the game, then yeah definately buy it (but only ever install or run the torrented version). How else can they get the money to produce future titles? I buy a hard copy of OpenBSD every release even though it is open-source because I want to support them.

    An interesting question though, is the "rental" version on Steam even the same price as a potential standalone boxed copy? Or is it cheaper due to being subsidised by Valve for users to consume from their rental machine? Then ask yourself why?

    For the record, I do *not* condone piracy because you are too cheap to buy the damn thing. I am often accused of this though since this accusation is the only weapon the evil DRM "system" has against people like me.
    Last edited by kpedersen; 26 October 2014, 11:39 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by kpedersen View Post
      Yeah, boycotting does neither the developer or the gamers any good. Pirating over boycotting is the way to go since at least that produces very radical figures in the developer's analytics.
      How does the developer distinguish between "people who pirate because of DRM" and "people who pirate because hey it's cheaper that way" ?

      Short of a mechanism that lets you put funds into escrow as a commitment to buy the game if a DRM-free version becomes available (which seems impractical even if the funds get returned in a year or something) I don't see pirating as a workable way to send a message about DRM to developers... at least not the message you want.

      Pirating (measured by the gap between purchased copies and played copies, assuming there is a way to track eg server connection) does send a strong "they need moar DRM" message though...
      Last edited by bridgman; 26 October 2014, 11:59 AM.
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      • #23
        How do I buy the game if steam doesn't list it for German users?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by bridgman View Post
          Pirating (measured by the gap between purchased copies and played copies, assuming there is a way to track eg server connection) does send a strong "they need moar DRM" message though...
          +100.
          Far worse, it sends a huge do-not-support-Linux-because-most-Linux-users-are-cheap-and-refuse-to-pay-for-software message.
          The *last* thing Linux users need is rampant piracy in this name of some childish ideology.

          For the record, I more-or-less quadrupled the number of games I bough, all recent Linux ports, even though I have zero time to play them, to support gaming on Linux.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by mazumoto View Post
            Apparently this game is unavailable in Germany due to being too violent. Great :-(
            That's odd. I'm here in Austria - no restrictions whatsoever. But then: We also got Half-Life with "real" soldiers and not "Robo-Grunts"... :-)

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            • #26
              Originally posted by gilboa View Post
              childish ideology.
              The same childish ideology that actually started GNU/Linux and ensured it's success.

              If you dont like that, then you have Windows. Why are your even using Linux if you are happy with the over commercialisation and restriction of everything on a desktop? Admittedly Windows will likely run those games better anyway since the engines / drivers have been tailored to that platform for years. Makes no sense.
              Last edited by kpedersen; 26 October 2014, 03:41 PM.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by mibo View Post
                How do I buy the game if steam doesn't list it for German users?
                Someone has to give it to you as a gift. I got it as a gift and it works normal

                The game is in german language as well, also be sure to follow gamingonlinux.com , in the comments section you regulary find people who give away free steam keys. I got Dead Island also for free from some friend who lives in England (never met him before).

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by kpedersen View Post
                  Yeah, boycotting does neither the developer or the gamers any good. Pirating over boycotting is the way to go since at least that produces very radical figures in the developer's analytics.
                  The only thing pirating will convince the developer of is that they need tougher DRM. Because clearly you are going to a degree of trouble in order to play their game, meaning you want it, and their goal is now just to make it difficult enough that those people buy instead.

                  Boycotting sends the message that you don't need to play their game unless they actually cater towards your wants. That's the only way DRM will ever end.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by kpedersen View Post
                    The same childish ideology that actually started GNU/Linux and ensured it's success.

                    If you dont like that, then you have Windows. Why are your even using Linux if you are happy with the over commercialisation and restriction of everything on a desktop? Admittedly Windows will likely run those games better anyway since the engines / drivers have been tailored to that platform for years. Makes no sense.
                    Last time I checked, neither RMS nor Linus preached in favor of software piracy in-order to "persuade" ISV's for open up the DRM used by their software.
                    Either my English has gone down the drain or you've completely missed the point. And by that I mean, the point flew over your head at 120,000 feet at mach 3.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by gilboa View Post
                      Last time I checked, neither RMS nor Linus preached in favor of software piracy in-order to "persuade" ISV's for open up the DRM used by their software.
                      Either my English has gone down the drain or you've completely missed the point. And by that I mean, the point flew over your head at 120,000 feet at mach 3.

                      - Gilboa
                      Sounds right to me. RMS has over and over ranted on how the best attack against proprietary things is not to use them. He does not preach for using them illegally. The best any single individual can do is to only use your money on OSS, never use proprietary and further try to silence proprietary to death as far as possible so it doesn't get free advertisement.

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