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[bridgman]

Yep... there are three Gallium3D drivers that cover everything since R300:

r300 (R3xx through R5xx)
r600 (R600 through NI)
radeonsi...

[bridgman]

It depends on the GPU generation IIRC.

GFX9 (including Vega) will use PAL with current AMDGPU packaged drivers.

If you run clinfo...

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Or "free and open source implementing a non-free standard"....

[bridgman]

If you install AMDGPU-PRO, PAL is built into the Vulkan driver. If you use the AMDVLK driver PAL is already included in the source tree. If you install...

[bridgman]

Not sure what you mean by this. The only kernel code not upstreamed is a couple of compute-specific patches that are not acceptable upstream. One is a...

[bridgman]

You mean "TMA", right ? ...

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... and that abstraction layer would not be allowed upstream. Are you saying that we should only produce out-of-tree drivers like NVidia ?...

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All the new HW in Vega was carried forward to Navi other than the graphics core itself. The main change for Navi was the GFX10/RDNA graphics core....

[bridgman]

No worries... I don't think we every talked much about how big the changes were outside of events like HotChips. If you think of Vega as having a somewhat...

[bridgman]

Have to disagree strongly with that statement. If Polaris is more stable it's because the programming model didn't change much.

The Polaris...

[bridgman]

It gives a couple of weeks to test the collected drm changes so that when 5.4 is opened up the code is generally solid. Once the merge window opens drm...

[bridgman]

I don't think we are expecting to have tested/working kernel support for ROCm upstream in 5.3. There is some code up there already but AFAIK it is still...

[bridgman]

Yeah, that content. Physical media may be stone age but at least the licensing terms are usually better.

There are probably software tools...

[bridgman]

Yeah, you're right. I saw "source archive" and thought, you know, "source archive"

Updated previous post accordin...

[bridgman]

There seem to be source archives... doesn't that count as open even if we also offer pre-built binaries ?

https://github.com/GPUOpen-Too...

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Yeah, you have to read between the lines a bit. Sometimes the GFX core in a family of GPUs is exactly the same between versions, but Navi12 and 14 had...

[bridgman]

I don't think anyone mentioned non-functional NGG, did they ? All Marek said was that the 19.2 pull request was using non-NGG paths because there wasn't...

[bridgman]

I don't believe we have announced it yet....

[bridgman]

I'm not sure, but I believe that BSD and Linux devs used to work together and that only changed when the BSD graphics community fell behind after a couple...

[bridgman]

That doesn't sound quite right... a number of the graphics drivers in the Linux kernel have MIT/X11 licensing. When you build them into a Linux kernel...