Proton 9.0-1 Released With Many Improvements For Steam Play Linux Gaming

[mSparks]

To those derailing a Proton thread to complain about a loosely tangent topic. Dont feed the trolls guys.

exactly, proton only works on X11, and they are just going to have to deal with everyone who wants to use proton sticking with X11 until that changes. which will likely be never.

[robojerk]

exactly, proton only works on X11, and they are just going to have to deal with everyone who wants to use proton sticking with X11 until that changes. which will likely be never.

You should file a bug report for the Steam Deck then and let Valve know Proton doesn't work on Wayland. Both Kwin and Gamescope useless for their product.

[mSparks]

You should file a bug report for the Steam Deck then and let Valve know Proton doesn't work on Wayland. Both Kwin and Gamescope useless for their product.

They know it doesn't, the steam deck has a wayland screen for X11, called gamescope, like XPRA only for mobile devices, they use wayland for its intended purpose. Proton is still an X11 application.

Hence
winex11.drv: HACK: Don't clip child windows for C&C Tiberian Sun.
being the latest commit

Wayland for desktop is both malicious and dead. Uninstall it.

[Volta]

You have that completely the wrong way round
The latest X11 kit was first released about 6 years ago, and was last released a few weeks ago.
Wayland hasn't seen a meaningfull update in 8 years.

No moron. Wayland is implemented via kwin and mutter and look there if you're looking for Wayland improvements. X11 is dead horse.

Obviously, because wayland is a steaming pile of shite, and only HBGary personas with no linux experience have anything nice to say about it
[...]

The challenge was to prove it is not dead by finding someone who has something nice to say about it.

Like I said, it may be Gnome implementation problem or it may be HBGary education problem as well.

Ex-xorg devs are Wayland developers and they clearly said X is dead. There's nothing good that can be said about X. When comes to Wayland it doesn't slow fullscreen games down like X. Try again.

[Volta]

exactly, proton only works on X11, and they are just going to have to deal with everyone who wants to use proton sticking with X11 until that changes. which will likely be never.

It works in XWayland. It will be ported to Wayland when Wine catches up.

[mSparks]

It works in XWayland.

as you implicitly admit in the very next sentence, xwayland is not wayland. xwayland is a low performance fork of xorg-server by people with malicious intent.
further, Xwayland doesnt and will never work on over 90% of modern gaming rigs, wayland is malicious and dead, Uninstall it.

It will be ported to Wayland when Wine catches up.

aka proton doesn't work on wayland now and it never will do. wayland is malicious and dead, Uninstall it.

[AlanTuring69]

They know it doesn't, the steam deck has a wayland screen for X11, called gamescope, like XPRA only for mobile devices, they use wayland for its intended purpose. Proton is still an X11 application.

Hence
winex11.drv: HACK: Don't clip child windows for C&C Tiberian Sun.
being the latest commit

Wayland for desktop is both malicious and dead. Uninstall it.

wayland no gud for gaming proton need x11 steam deck use it rite cuz they smart wayland just a fad kwin gamescope they do what they gotta do

[AlanTuring69]

No moron. Wayland is implemented via kwin and mutter and look there if you're looking for Wayland improvements. X11 is dead horse.



Like I said, it may be Gnome implementation problem or it may be HBGary education problem as well.

Ex-xorg devs are Wayland developers and they clearly said X is dead. There's nothing good that can be said about X. When comes to Wayland it doesn't slow fullscreen games down like X. Try again.

lol wayland aint good for old hw x11 was king devs jumpin on wayland bandwagon dont get it x is what we grew on full screen games whatever man x did that just fine before wayland even a twinkle in devs eye

[mSparks]

HBGary education problem as well.

An HBGary Persona is the (colloquial name for) software the US government and military personel use to astroturf their various programs and policies

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/02/black-ops-how-hbgary-wrote-backdoors-and-rootkits-for-the-government/4/

wayland gets promoted by them ubiquitously for obvious reasons.

[mrg666]

An HBGary Persona is the (colloquial name for) software the US government and military personel use to astroturf their various programs and policies

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/02/black-ops-how-hbgary-wrote-backdoors-and-rootkits-for-the-government/4/

wayland gets promoted by them ubiquitously for obvious reasons.

After you take your daily pill, try to read the following. Everybody hacks eveybody nowadays, Linux is the best platform. Wayland is the most secure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killnet

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/apt31-chinese-hacking-group-behind-global-cyberespionage-campaign-2024-03-26/