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  • #11
    Originally posted by StarterX4 View Post

    No. The name really must be changed. There's no more place for "Reiser" in IT again.
    Isn't re-socialisation a goal of the penal system?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by ms178 View Post

      Isn't re-socialisation a goal of the penal system?
      They say it is....but if you know anyone who has actually been in the penal system...then you lol when people say that.

      In reality the only goal of the penal system is to punish people and the system is set up for failure, especially for felons. Because it just isn't the prison time that they have to deal with. Nope. Once you're released you're still in the penal system on parole and you'll deal with that for another 1+ years until parole is up. While on parole, the simplest, most minor of infraction will land you back in prison and you'll have to go through the same parole routine again until you finally finish it.

      Once all that parole is up, you're still not even a citizen and you have next to no rights if you were a felon. You can't own a weapon. You can't vote. As far as I'm concerned, if one pays their debt to society, they should be allowed to vote and buy a gun....I don't care if they had two weed seeds in their floorboard and therefore got two years in prison and are now a felon, they did their time and should be allowed to vote and own a gun (happened to a guy I know....moral of the story is don't go to Arizona).

      And because they have being on parole on their record, possibly a felon too, they have less jobs available than the average person and are pretty much limited to mundane minimal wage jobs (unless they are one of the lucky ones who go to a prison with access to good post-secondary and/or technical training...and even then).

      The penal system is also where a lot of racism is born. In there you stick with your own color and that mentality tends to stick with people years and years after they've been release. It's why racism and gang violence tend to go hand in hand.

      The American penal system is the fuck that keeps on fucking. All I know is I'm glad that traffic violations are the worst crap on my record.

      At least if we're talking about the American penal system. YMMV in other countries.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by ms178 View Post
        Isn't re-socialisation a goal of the penal system?
        We should be welcoming this man with open arms, to prove how diverse and inclusive the open source community is. As a convicted felon he's now a marginalized member of society, and as such he should be entitled to sponsorship via Outreachy. Let us be leaders on this issue, and demonstrate that we will not discriminate based on past criminal record. After all, upon his release, he will have paid his debt to society in full, and we should not allow prejudices to get in the way of his full reintegration into the community.

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        • #14
          or even being welcomed back in the Linux kernel community.
          Uh, so in other words, if Hans gets out, he'll have the same respect he had before?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by cjcox View Post
            Uh, so in other words, if Hans gets out, he'll have the same respect he had before?
            No, he'll have even greater respect than before, due to the diversity of his lived experiences.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by cynic View Post
              Reiser 5, kernel 5.5.5, March 5th
              And you got 5 fives, and your nick is 5 letters, and it was posted on Sunday (7th day of the week) which is 5 because 7 - 2 = 5.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

                Then tell Michael not to bring it up in TFA
                I assume he posts every piece of MurderFS news on purpose, just for this reason.

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                • #18
                  While I'm not sure about diversity or respect argument, wouldn't it be more useful to have him perform community service for non-profit organization anyway?

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                  • #19
                    Does Reiser4/5 do anything particularly new or meaningful that we don't already have with other file systems like xfs, ext, or btrfs at this point? I remember back in the day it was said to be faster than the ext2/3 it was competing against, and I remember toying with it on Ubuntu 5 iirc.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Particle View Post
                      Does Reiser4/5 do anything particularly new or meaningful that we don't already have with other file systems like xfs, ext, or btrfs at this point? I remember back in the day it was said to be faster than the ext2/3 it was competing against, and I remember toying with it on Ubuntu 5 iirc.
                      Well, Reiserfs (3) was really the first common journaling filesystem out there. And, if you were an enterprise Linux user (SuSE), with LVM, you could finally dynamically grow your filesystems on the fly. In many ways, it made true enterprise computing possible (talking the SuSE Enterprise Linux 7 days, talking even pre-RHELAS 3, which means RHELAS 2 days, a version that Red Hat doesn't even want to admit ever existed). Even today, while it's fairly easy to grow an ext4 online, it's not as fast as growing Reiserfs. And sometimes that's important.

                      There were some other pro's to that early most popular reiserfs with regards to the fact that it wasn't as bound with regards to inode table limitations. When ext2/3 ran out of inodes (new files), it was painful to fix. Reiserfs also seemed to perform better with single directories containing tons of files.

                      A pro/con of Reiserfs was it's tail packing which caused some performance degradation but packed in more data.

                      But... the complex data structure on disk of Reiserfs led to issues when stopped abruptly causing a higher risk for less stable environments.

                      I think Jeffrey Hobbs of SuSE brought in other features that were not present in Reiserfs (like acls and quotas) that were found in things like ext3. Implementations might not have been the fastest, but still, it helped keep Reiserfs (3) relevant. But it really really really meant that if you wanted "good" Reiserfs, you probably wanted SuSE as your distro.

                      Over the years, more journaling options came out with Reiserfs as the ext3+'s had arguably better/more journaling choices. In other words, later Reiserfs struggled a bit to add features that other filesystems had. It took a very long time for Red Hat to get with it with LVM (really once they acquired Sistina, who should have been acquired by SuSE, as they understood the need/use much much better than Red Hat). I mention that just so you can understand the timing and when Reiserfs was really at its peak inside production datacenters and why. IMHO, Red Hat didn't really have a truly reliable enterprise product until RHEL 5 (there's a lot of reasons I say that, some of which is very very very embarrassing for Red Hat).

                      I guess it helps to know the early "enterprise Linux" war (all the competition) and the two players (SuSE and Red Hat). If you understand that, then you can also know why Reiserfs was "a thing" for a while.





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