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  • #21
    I think people should be realistic. Picking KDE and other DEs components will inflate the already big ISO file, so they will not do it.
    • Web Browser: Chromium
    • Email Client: Thunderbird
    • Terminal: Gnome default
    • IDE: Gnome default
    • File manager: Nemo
    • Basic Text Editor: Gnome default
    • IRC/Messaging Client: Gnome default
    • PDF Reader: Gnome default
    • Office Suite: Libreoffice
    • Calendar: Gnome default
    • Video Player: Gnome default
    • Music Player: Gnome default
    • Photo Viewer: Gnome default
    • Screen recording: ???"


    For browser, I think Chromium will me more appealing to a larger, non-radical-software-freedom-tinfoil audience. Chrome is already the most used browser, and a familiar app will please newcomers. Advanced users don't care what comes default anyway (typing this from Firefox).

    For file manager, any that has more resources than Nautilus. Actually, any that have dual panels after pressing F3. Windows -slow as a snail to evolve- Explorer already has tabs, so a Ubuntu app should be above it in function, not the same. Installing a different file manager is pain in ass on a DE because of some configurations that get messed, so if the developers can provide a better than Nautilus by default, it will be nice.
    Last edited by M@GOid; 21 July 2017, 02:11 PM.

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    • #22
      When embracing GNOME again, using default GNOME apps if possible makes most sense, doesn't it?


      Web Browser: Firefox
      Email Client: geary, thunderbird
      Terminal: gnome-terminal
      IDE: none, gnome-builder
      File manager: nautilus
      Basic Text Editor: gedit
      IRC/Messaging Client: none, thunderbird
      PDF Reader: evince
      Office Suite: libreoffice
      Calendar: gnome-calendar, thunderbird
      Video Player: totem
      Music Player: gnome-music
      Photo Viewer: shotwell
      Screen recording: gnome-shell

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      • #23
        • Web Browser: Firefox LTS, and before they start phasing out add-on support. Unless Ubuntu devs feel like doing the rewrite work?
        • Email Client: Something that our almighty overlord Google will actually allow...so not Evolution.
        • Terminal: xfce4-terminal or gnome-terminal.
        • IDE: Code::blocks.
        • File manager: Nemo, from Cinnamon. Yes, really -- it's still GNOME 3-tech-based, but it's more pleasant than the GNOME 3 user interface guidelines has lead modern Nautilus to be.
        • Basic Text Editor: gedit, same as ever. Install syntax highlighting for C, C++, Java, C#, ECMAScript, Rust, XML. Done.
        • IRC/Messaging Client: Pidgin.
        • PDF Reader: Evince.
        • Office Suite: Libreoffice 5.
        • Calendar: Oh, how I miss Mozilla Sunbird.
        • Video Player: mpv
        • Music Player: Not Rhythmbox. Audacious, maybe? I'm still looking.
        • Photo Viewer: mirage
        • Screen recording: Can't help you there, sorry.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by M@GOid View Post
          I think people should be realistic. Picking KDE and other DEs components will inflate the already big ISO file, so they will not do it.
          • Web Browser: Chromium
          • Email Client: Thunderbird
          • Terminal: Gnome default
          • IDE: Gnome default
          • File manager: Nemo
          • Basic Text Editor: Gnome default
          • IRC/Messaging Client: Gnome default
          • PDF Reader: Gnome default
          • Office Suite: Libreoffice
          • Calendar: Gnome default
          • Video Player: Gnome default
          • Music Player: Gnome default
          • Photo Viewer: Gnome default
          • Screen recording: ???"


          For browser, I think Chromium will me more appealing to a larger, non-radical-software-freedom-tinfoil audience. Chrome is already the most used browser, and a familiar app will please newcomers. Advanced users don't care what comes default anyway (typing this from Firefox).

          For file manager, any that has more resources than Nautilus. Actually, any that have dual panels after pressing F3. Windows -slow as a snail to evolve- Explorer already has tabs, so a Ubuntu app should be above it in function, not the same. Installing a different file manager is pain in ass on a DE because of some configurations that get messed, so if the developers can provide a better than Nautilus by default, it will be nice.
          While I agree with your list, few things would do differently:
          • Web Browser: Chromium or Firefox
          • Email Client: Evolution
          • File manager: Nautilus (Files)


          Firefox is improving, we can't know for sure, but it SEEMS like it would be much better in year from now, so it might be good choice also. Most people do not use email clients and those who do use it would have no problem installing whatever they prefer, evolution because some of it's functionality is tied to calendar in GNOME DE. File manager, well..., using Nemo in GNOME..., nautilus (files) have to be installed, since Desktop and other components depend on it..., complicating things with patchs to use Nemo instead would be unnecessary work and will without doubt introduce problems, besides, Nemo doesn't fit GNOME 3 at all...

          Otherwise, your list is good, I mean why going outside of teh defaults? Yeah totem sucks..., it's true, VLC is great, but I prefer mpv (GNOME-MPV), since that is project we can't know for sure if it will continue in future, it would be crazy to suggest it, IMO GNOME 3 should just adopt mpv and include GNOME-MPV as default and maintain it.

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          • #25
            • Web Browser: Firefox
            • Email Client: Thunderbird
            • File manager: Nautilus
            • Basic Text Editor: gedit
            • PDF Reader: qpdfview
            • Office Suite: LibreOffice
            • Calendar: Thunderbird/Lightning
            • Video Player: VLC
            • Music Player: Clementine

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            • #26
              • Web Browser: Firefox
              • Email Client: Thunderbird
              • File manager: Dolphin
              • Basic Text Editor: Gedit
              • PDF Reader: Evince
              • Office Suite: LibreOffice
              • Calendar: Thunderbird
              • Video Player: VLC
              • Music Player: DeadBeef
              • BitTorrent client: qBittorrent

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              • #27
                Originally posted by nll_a

                Most used browser in Linux? You got a source for that? Windows is more appealing to a "larger, non-radical-software-freedom-tinfoil audience" - so what? And speak for yourself - lots of us do care about defaults.

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                Well,I don't use Ubuntu anymore, so whatever. Just keep Firefox as default.
                LoL.

                I have no answer for that...

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by leipero View Post

                  While I agree with your list, few things would do differently:
                  • Web Browser: Chromium or Firefox
                  • Email Client: Evolution
                  • File manager: Nautilus (Files)



                  Firefox is improving, we can't know for sure, but it SEEMS like it would be much better in year from now, so it might be good choice also. Most people do not use email clients and those who do use it would have no problem installing whatever they prefer, evolution because some of it's functionality is tied to calendar in GNOME DE. File manager, well..., using Nemo in GNOME..., nautilus (files) have to be installed, since Desktop and other components depend on it..., complicating things with patchs to use Nemo instead would be unnecessary work and will without doubt introduce problems, besides, Nemo doesn't fit GNOME 3 at all...

                  Otherwise, your list is good, I mean why going outside of teh defaults? Yeah totem sucks..., it's true, VLC is great, but I prefer mpv (GNOME-MPV), since that is project we can't know for sure if it will continue in future, it would be crazy to suggest it, IMO GNOME 3 should just adopt mpv and include GNOME-MPV as default and maintain it.
                  I really don't care witch is the default, because I will aways install them both. One complement the other for me. But as Ubuntu is the main distro for newcomers to Linux, having Chromium as default will score points with people already using it in Windows.

                  I said Nemo but it can be anything that have double panels. Even a patched Nautilus. When I was testing Ubuntu as my primary system, Nautilus bugged me a lot, because I knew it have some functionality that was taken away, and found the problems using another FM instead of the default, not only in Unity, but in XFCE and LXDE as well. That's why I said before if the developer could integrate another FM for us, it would be nice.

                  Videos... I use primely use SMplayer as a GUI for MPV, mostly because its keyboard shortcuts are much better than those in VLC. BUT is a QT application (as is VLC), so ...

                  For music, I really don't know what GTK people find nice, so whatever they choose. If I have to peak, it probably would be Audacious, because is feature rich and light.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by zareami View Post
                    dillo, claws, geeqie?!? you people are the reason we are stuck with 80s UX and UIs... Now let me guess you'll suggest vim as IDE...
                    • Web Browser: firefox
                    • Email Client: geary
                    • Terminal: tilix
                    • IDE: gnome builder(tough shouldn't be pre-installed, who needs an IDE in a vanilla experience
                    • File manager: nautilus
                    • Basic Text Editor: gedit
                    • IRC/Messaging Client: polari
                    • PDF Reader: evince
                    • Office Suite: libreoffice
                    • Calendar: gnome callendar
                    • Video Player: mpv/gnome-mpv
                    • Music Player: lollypop
                    • Photo Viewer: gthumb
                    • Screen recording: ???"



                    some of these apps like polari and gnome callendar still lack some features but you give them 6 months with ubuntu's use base and they will get into a great shape, including some unmaintained stuff like pidgin with disastrous UX is worse than including a software which lacks some features. They at least don't look like shit and from win 98 era.
                    problem with Polari, there aint enough Help with it by adding more Features, its the same with Crapola Epiphany . i would also Leave Firefox as Default however once Firefox57 is released to the public userbase of it may slide downhill due to the fact of shit extensions available , a lot of Authors of Legacy Extensions just wont convert there Extensions to WebExtensions

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                    • #30

                      • Web Browser: Firefox
                      • Email Client: Thunderbird + Enigmail (absolutely essential)
                      • Terminal: Gnome Terminal
                      • IDE: Eclipse
                      • File manager: Nautilus
                      • Basic Text Editor: Gedit
                      • IRC/Messaging Client: none (but have riot and/or wire readily available)
                      • PDF Reader: Evince
                      • Office Suite: Libre Office
                      • Calendar: n/a
                      • Video Player: Totem + VLC as an option
                      • Music Player: honestly I don't know of any that don't suck
                      • Photo Viewer: Gnome photos
                      • Screen recording: Simple screen recorder




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