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    Phoronix: Fedora 40 Plans To Unify /usr/bin & /usr/sbin

    One of the latest change proposals filed for Fedora 40 is to unify their /usr/bin and /usr/sbin locations...

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  • #2
    Huh, they hadn't done this already? It has been unified on Arch for at least a few years. Oh well, better late than never I guess.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Vorpal View Post
      Huh, they hadn't done this already? It has been unified on Arch for at least a few years. Oh well, better late than never I guess.
      Already was /bin /sbin -> /usr/bin /usr/sbin.

      I guess Debian will have another 6 year war because of this change They've not even completed the usr merge yet, AFAIK.

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      • #4
        So the FHS doesn't matter?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by avis View Post
          I guess Debian will have another 6 year war because of this change They've not even completed the usr merge yet, AFAIK.
          "It gets better", Debian is among the exceedingly few GNU/Linux distros that do not add {/usr{/local,},}/sbin to PATH for non-root users by default . Cue many speculative genealogy sessions by me on the spot whenever I wanted some network info on Debian boxen using /sbin/ifconfig , /sbin/route , and /sbin/arp (from before I switched to mostly using ip, which is thankfully on /bin )

          (As for /usr migration, Debian 13 -- Trixie -- will be fully migrated and IIRC Debian 12 -- bullseye -- already installs with merged /usr by default; the issue is packaging -- packages that still install to /{lib,{,s}bin} -- and a somewhat esoteric bug/corner case in dpkg)

          PD: I have no particular horse in this race, but the rationale posted on the Fedora proposed change neatly counters all my arguments for keeping the split .

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          • #6
            They put sbin into usr/bin too ?
            I don’t get it.

            If they want to unify folders media could be merged with mnt then.

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            • #7
              Excellent. There's been a few times where I've followed a guide and it didn't work because I didn't realize it needed to use sbin instead of bin.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by avis View Post

                Already was /bin /sbin -> /usr/bin /usr/sbin.

                I guess Debian will have another 6 year war because of this change They've not even completed the usr merge yet, AFAIK.
                Not only Debian: openSUSE Tumbleweed also separates the two still.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Vorpal View Post
                  ... for at least a few years.
                  Basically 12.

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                  • #10
                    Why not unify /dev /sys etc. And /home /mnt /media /root into /. Heck why not unify everything and every filename is a hash in /.

                    more to come destroying linux madness.

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