Fedora Linux 39 Released As A Wonderful Upgrade For Leading Workstations & Servers

[Volta]

Finally wallpaper that isn't ugly and depressing as hell. It's even nice one.

[plonoma]

Congratulations!

[chromer]

obviously there is a great demand for kde spin as it is most used desktop.

KDE is really a good desktop, highly customizable, pretty and easy on hardware (if configured correctly).

[torsionbar28]

downloading kde spin, going very slowly
obviously there is a great demand for kde spin as it is most used desktop.

Gnomes on life support

Is KDE really that popular? I remember compiling KDE circa 2000 for the DEC alpha, took forever to build, it was massive. Version 1.2 I think? Seemed really slick and full of features. Anyhow, was on GNOME 2 forever as that was RHEL default. Then when GNOME 3 abomination arrived, I opted for MATE. I think I'll download a KDE spin and give it a try again, I bet a lot has changed in 20+ years. BTW I still have the Alpha, a Compaq XP1000, 667 Mhz, in my basement.

[kpedersen]

X11 support won't disappear any time soon. It will survive on top of wayland compositors.

And when Wayland dies, then X11 will survive on top of whatever the next successor is (obviously X12).

[pracedru]

I upgraded to F39 a few weeks ago.. Works great!

[fitzie]

don't like the new desktop background image, I think I'll skip this release.

[jorgepl]

Fantastic! The best distro out there!

[Britoid]

And when Wayland dies, then X11 will survive on top of whatever the next successor is (obviously X12).

Wayland can't really die given it's scope is different to Xorg.

Wayland is really just a protocol for buffer management and input handling, the former being designed for how modern GPUs work (hence why Asahi supports Wayland only), and why Wayland in concept can achieve far better performance than Xorg.

Xorg was a drawing API, and a printer API, and a bunch of other stuff and all of this was designed in a world where the terminal and computer are in different locations.

You could write an alternative to Wayland, but like the Android or macOS protocols, it would already follow similar design patterns to Wayland.

[calc]

And the LAST Fedora to ever have X11 support. Savor it.

And Gnome on wayland, 10+ years later, still can't load new extensions without having to logout. 🤦

That plus things like systemd-bsod is moving Linux closer to Windows every day.