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Originally posted by WereCatf View Post
I don't understand. Why wouldn't I trust Nextcloud-devs to know best how to maintain Nextcloud and its dependencies? If not Nextcloud-devs themselves, then who?
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Originally posted by fkoehler View Post
Doesn't matter whom you trust, there will always be people saying "what you are doing is insufficient and insecure...". And if you do everything yourself and trust nobody, and manage to react to every security notification with a full rebuild, thourough testing and complete validation run + deployment of the updated software within a time frame of 24 hours, that's clearly insufficient and not fast enough ;-)
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Originally posted by CochainComplex View PostPop_OS is a perfect replacement for Ubuntu. I think it will replace ubuntu in the near future. (If cosmic is a big break)*
*I know that it is based on ubuntu. But its more or less a matter of time until they will rebase to debian with their selection of packages and cosmic+flatpak
It will only change if Ubuntu becomes hostile to such distros.
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I highly recommend a read of https://popey.com/blog/2023/09/outdated-snap-packages/
It's from someone who spent five years as part of the Canonical team encouraging developers to produce snap packages.
The second paragraph includes the sentence "Canonical needs to get a grip on the broken, uninstallable, insecure, and outdated snaps provided in the snap store" and the rest confirms that snaps on the desktop are not for me.
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Originally posted by Alex Doe View PostAm I only one here around who is ignoring Ubuntu just because they force feed us with Snap by replacing some important packages?
Y'all are weird.
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Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
I'll never get over the irony of people on this forum essentially boycotting Ubuntu for creating and using Snaps but worshiping and simping for Fedora for doing the exact same thing with Flatpaks, a format that is 1:1 on it's purpose for existing, and timeline that it has existed, as Snaps. It's Upstart vs systemd all over again, and once again Red Hat and IBM throw their weight around to "win" the NIH race.
Y'all are weird.
But Red Hat has the marketing machine to influence them into believing in a false sense of community, so that 3rd party devs get the work actually done while Red Hat never really take responsibility for it themselves (it's always the fault of others when something they developed is broken). Basically everything Red Hat creates is poorly designed, but they are very good at brainwashing, and they don't assume what they do in the eyes of people (they will spread FUD on Canonical while doing the same as you mentioned), although their only goal is the bottom line, just as it is for Canonical. All they do is for themselves, not for a community they fakely try to persuade there is.
Canonical does assume clearly on the contrary. They've always been honest about it and assuming it.Last edited by Mez'; 20 September 2023, 05:58 AM.
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Originally posted by Mez' View PostHaha, spot on.
But Red Hat has the marketing machine to influence them into believing in a false sense of community, so that 3rd party devs get the work actually done while Red Hat never really take responsibility for it themselves (it's always the fault of others when something they developed is broken). Basically everything Red Hat creates is poorly designed, but they are very good at brainwashing, and they don't assume what they do in the eyes of people (they will spread FUD on Canonical while doing the same as you mentioned), although their only goal is the bottom line, just as it is for Canonical. All they do is for themselves, not for a community they fakely try to persuade there is.
Canonical does assume clearly on the contrary. They've always been honest about it and assuming it.
I don't suck microscopic things
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Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
I'll never get over the irony of people on this forum essentially boycotting Ubuntu for creating and using Snaps but worshiping and simping for Fedora for doing the exact same thing with Flatpaks, a format that is 1:1 on it's purpose for existing, and timeline that it has existed, as Snaps. It's Upstart vs systemd all over again, and once again Red Hat and IBM throw their weight around to "win" the NIH race.
Y'all are weird.
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