So much hate... I am still on Debian stable and kde4 on all except one machine. One bug on kdepim bit me, it was fixed within a couple of days though. Other than that, rock solid on Intel, amd and nvidia gpu's. One machine running Debian testing for timely updates to radeonsi. Only issue after a couple of years is some libs shipped with steam colliding with the system libs, nothing related to KDE. I am very impressed with plasma 5, and will be rolling all machines over when it hits Debian stable. Huge thanks to all the developers that have indured the never ending hate fest from gnome users. Any chance you gnomes are a bit envious? (that would sure explain a lot)
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Im using Lxqt and when I read this, its feel gnome users are frustrated bc of using gnome.
Facts:
- in lxqt every window manager works except Mutter and Marco, even cinnamon is ok. I use kwin bc its good.
- kde apps are superior to gnome, personally I use only Gimp. Yakuake, kate, k3b, kdevelop - gnome has only poor cousins.
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Originally posted by Griffin View Post
100% Agree. After KDE failed as a desktop it is more like a social experiment. Each year less relevant, less senior developers and more dormant code.
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Originally posted by darclide View PostDo it. Trust me, you won't regret it. I switched away months ago
Originally posted by darclide View PostAnd since when I switched, GNOME got a lot better. You'll notice
Originally posted by darclide View PostThey have a UX team that actually knows UX, and doesn't make it worse with every release
Could you give some examples where KDE has poor UX for you and where it gets worse with every release? It's all been improvements to me.
Originally posted by darclide View PostThey have more than one people working on Wayland stuff, and things are actually usable compared to with KDE
Originally posted by darclide View PostThey rarely break functionality and features just because "lol, I felt like it" and they are in general a lot nicer to work with
Originally posted by darclide View PostThe toolkit (GTK) is actually built for their needs, they are not a niche product using it, which is neither tested nor supported
Originally posted by darclide View PostAnd basic, essential stuff like a multi monitor setup just works, out of the box.
Originally posted by darclide View PostGNOME has extensions that make it far more powerfull than KDE.
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KDE fan, running GNOME 3.22 in a convertible laptop, here.
The truth is: I'm running GNOME here because all those negatives that hinder GNOME in every single type of computer are pluses here, and GNOME seems to be made with convertible laptops, and ONLY convertible laptops, in mind (I have also a normal PC with KDE inside, I just love KDE). To mention:
1. In a normal computer, I need to press Start and navigate with my mouse until I reach the "All applications" button to see all apps installed, so, it's a nightmare. In my convertible, I swipe from the right and access is instant. So, the full screen menu that is a liability everywhere else, here is a blessing.
2. The disjointed GNOME notification experience is not an issue when you can swipe from the edge and get what you want quickly.
3. Those massive title bars become suddenly useful when you have a touchscreen close; you can drag them and move windows easily.
4. You can navigate between virtual desktops with a four finger gesture.
5. GNOME can recognize the gyroscope built into my convertible laptop, and can use it to rotate the screen automagically, even in Wayland.
6. GTK recognizes well finger gestures, Qt not so much (at least in a non-Wayland environment, from my testing).
KDE has none of these features. But these features are only relevant if you use a convertible laptop. And I hope they are implemented in KDE soon.
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Originally posted by marmarama View Post
For a 'failed desktop' I still see a lot of development and, anecdotally, more installs of it among the Linux desktop users I know than any other desktop or WM (Unity coming a close second). This suggests it's doing something right. The Linux desktop users I know are a mixture of web operations people and developers, all fairly high-powered users.
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Originally posted by Sho_
I really wonder why you have so much hatred in your mind, and why you focus it on a free software project of all things in the world. How did you get to making this your daily obsession?
It's really quite strange. The console wars, graphics cards, etc. It clearly fills some void in a lot of people's lives.
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