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Another "stable" version released while serious bugs remain. For example if you're still on Xorg, because you actually want to play some games or do any color managed work, enjoy tearing in full screen windows (#mutter/2794). Perhaps, you want to use an actual taskbar and minimize windows, enjoy janky animations (#mutter/2317). Or maybe use the alt-tab switcher, too bad it'll randomly stop working correctly (#gnome-shell/6553). At least, I don't have to restart the shell anymore every other day due to GC issues.Last edited by sindex; 21 September 2023, 11:55 PM.
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Originally posted by creative View Post
I wish they would discontinue their DE and just maintain certain libraries and utilities.
Originally posted by creative View PostGNOME from what I understand has done a fair amount of demolitioning of things that other projects outside GNOME rely on or looked to as assets for design.
But for the biggest gnome libraries like gtk, glib, and others, outside consumers are getting support and maintenance for like 20 years on major releases - that is amazing and beyond anything others do. For instance gtk2 was receiving maintenance long after qt3 (and even qt4) were abandoned!
Originally posted by creative View PostIn my opinion they need to be taking orders from long standing GNU Linux desktop development leaders outside the GNOME project and the GNOME desktop rendered derelict.
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Originally posted by sindex View PostAnother "stable" version released while serious bugs remain. For example if you're still on Xorg, because you actually want to play some games or do any color managed work, enjoy tearing in full screen windows (#2794). Perhaps, you want to use an actual taskbar and minimize windows, enjoy janky animations (#2317). Or maybe use the alt-tab switcher, too bad it'll randomly stop working correctly (#6553). At least, I don't have to restart the shell anymore every other day due to GC issues.
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Originally posted by creative View PostIn my opinion they need to be taking orders from long standing GNU Linux desktop development leaders outside the GNOME project and the GNOME desktop rendered derelict.
If you dont like the direction you can try to "order" people how to spend their free time but in the issue tracker on gitlab.
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Originally posted by mppix View Post
Lol. Gnome project IS the GNU Linux desktop leader in many respects so your wish is granted I guess.
If you dont like the direction you can try to "order" people how to spend their free time but in the issue tracker on gitlab.It has been more than a decade of GNOME 3’s initial release and GNOME still sucks. Two of my most popular posts have been about GNOME 3 (#3 and #5), and in 2023 people still keep referencing …
I am not going to try to order anyone, was just expressing some of my opinions. Comparing where they are now to where they used to be, it doesn't seem that history is on their side.
The one thing you don't do is alienate your user base and act like you know what is best for them. Of course I don't use GNOME but some of the stuff I do use, uses pieces of the project unfortunately. Perhaps I should stop using those as well.Last edited by creative; 21 September 2023, 02:14 PM.
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Originally posted by oleid View PostDid you report this as a bug?
You should share your professional wisdome with them.
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No problem.
Yeah I tried GNOME I think about, lets see? Maybe five years ago, started to try and customize some things in it. Its shell broke pretty much instantly.
Even from the very beginning I never used it anyway, just tried it out here and there. The first things I actually tried and used in GNU Linux for the desktop were Blackbox and Wmaker. So that kind of tells you a bit about me concerning my performance interests and things desktop related.
Today I use XFCE but could easily revert to something like fluxbox or something similar. Believe it or not Wmaker is still pretty serviceable it's just not the most beautiful or modern thing around and you can customize quite a bit in it. You probably would not want to though, it's so old.Last edited by creative; 21 September 2023, 03:24 PM.
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Originally posted by guglovich View PostExcept I could use the performance profile switcher from Gnome. But the future is in flexible DEs written in Rust.
I find it really amusing that their playing nice with rust now. But people wanting to write a dock for gnome (i.e. the wonderful dash-to-dock) must use javascript.
GNOME has the leadership position because they follow gtk, and gtk is still a leader, and the gnome experience (with all of it's limitations) is pretty polished. But their arrogance and dismissal of "power users" are basically the seeds of their undoing.
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