GIMP 3.0 Release Candidates Hoped For This Year

[Mavman]

I’m not comparing, they’re just different tools. Not everything have to be a competition. I wouldn’t mind also seeing some machine learning stuff as plugins (I can’t bring myself to call it AI though).

Yeah.
Still, if i remember correctly, resynthesizer did came first and only much time later did photoshop invented their "content aware fill".
Of course, it was only when the "content aware fill" hit the news that people started talking about resynthesizer... (but it was not a "photoshop original")

[Mavman]

What? Photoshop isn't for drawing either, that's Illustrator's job. Photoshop and GIMP are both raster "Image Manipulation Programs".

Here also "if i remember it correctly" photoshop did get invented as a drawing program and only later did it evolved into a raster manipulation program!!!

@all feel free to correct me (my memory maybe tricking me =)

[Mavman]

I tried them. They might offer some "interesting " stuff, but professional graphic designers just use it as the base of an idea and continue a very interactive process.

oiaohm have you tried any of this in PS? Can you bring some light to the subject???
(i personally have not tried any of this "AI tools" and would like a professional POV)

[Mike Frett]

Very basic image manipulation tool. I use it all the time but wish they would put their feet into some AI plugins for more image options.

[DMJC]

That would be awful strange if an expensive product didn't have a ton more features than a free one that needs niche skills to contribute to.

You mean like blender and Maya? Blender is kicking Mayas ass on features. As it says on the blender website. It's not photoshop and not trying to be photoshop. It's an image editor. If you want a tool that does what photoshop does start a project or fork gimp. Gimp is already easy to use, but it lacks some drawing tools which photoshop has. But that's OK because gimp isn't trying to be a drawing tool.

[timofonic]

You mean like blender and Maya? Blender is kicking Mayas ass on features. As it says on the blender website. It's not photoshop and not trying to be photoshop. It's an image editor. If you want a tool that does what photoshop does start a project or fork gimp. Gimp is already easy to use, but it lacks some drawing tools which photoshop has. But that's OK because gimp isn't trying to be a drawing tool.

Krita and Gimp should be merged, despite using different toolkits...

[oiaohm]

oiaohm have you tried any of this in PS? Can you bring some light to the subject???
(i personally have not tried any of this "AI tools" and would like a professional POV)

I have done system setups for people using all adobe tools. Gimp, krita and photoshop were all used.

Gimp advantage in commercial usage is not commonly considered. Batch processing is a place where gimp comes into own. Yes there are cases where you have stacks of photos to intentional degrade for samples on websites and the like the difference here using Gimp batch processing vs photoshop batch process can be as high as 1000 images completed by gimp for 1 image completed on Photoshop with the filters to produce the same result of down grading processed images. This difference means you can be using quite a weak computer running GImp doing this batch processing work and still be faster than the very expensive computer with Photoshop on it.

Krita is better at painting/new artwork create than photoshop but photoshop is more all rounder.

The reality all three tools Photoshop, gimp and kritia have their place in a professional workflow. The catch here using each of them where they don't suit highly costs productivity.

Yes lot of compares of photoshop or krita vs gimp don't look at batchprocessing performance. Krita is also not that great in batch processing.

https://80.lv/articles/a-new-stable-diffusion-plug-in-for-gimp-krita/

AI tools are not restricted to Photoshop. Also this brings up another problem lets say you want to run you own custom stable diffusion or other image AI engine locally Photoshops heavy usage of GPU end up being a issue with the local running AI model also wanting to use the GPU.

Order of choice for least GPU usage.
1) Gimp
2) Krita
3) Photoshop.
This is why gimp is good at batch processing because Gimp sips resources. Krita moderately uses resources to the point it basically never pushes modern system to limit. Then you have Photoshop can be like person who does not know when to stop drinking at the bar.

Photoshops high resource usage at times is why it can have horrible latency to input at times. Think you are trying to draw a picture and something photoshop ai or the like causes system to have the jitters due to running out of resources this is not going to make drawing fun this is why Krita wins in drawing. Lets say you are attempting to modify existing photos/images with custom effects applied in the shortest time possible then photoshops high resource usage with built in AI assistance makes sense.

Problem here photoshop resource usage design is a double side sword this configuration makes sense for the particular workflows then not for others.

Yes lets say we could make a perfect replacement to photoshop would it replace the roles gimp and krita fills at the moment the answer is a horrible no because a perfect replacement to photoshop would have the heavy resource usage problem because that is what required to have all the automated assistance that makes Photoshop great in the role it suites.

Yes we have a problem in image work everyone looking for the universal hammer to everything so not noticing they are attempting to use hammers to drive in stack of different screws.

[Vistaus]

So, 2023 is the year of the GIMP (3.0)?

Not really, since GIMP has already been superseded (not code-wise, but by adoption rate and development) by Krita. An increasingly number of schools and colleges in Europe have started using Krita in the past few years and the adoption is still ongoing. And since students are learning Krita in class, they have to use them for assignments too, which very much increases the adoption rate.
Also, it's a bit more cross-platform than GIMP, which helps too.

[Vistaus]

The GIMP is not trying to be a photoshop alternative as much as its userbase wants it to be one. GIMP is not meant to be used for/not designed for drawing. It's an important distinction to make. The GIMP is it's own project with its own philosophy and goals.

If Photoshop is meant for drawing, then why does almost everyone use it as photo editing software?

Edit: deleted a wrong assumption about Illustrator.

[oiaohm]

If Photoshop is meant for drawing, then why does almost everyone use it as photo editing software? And can you please explaing what Adobe Illustrator from the same suite is for? Seems kinda odd for them to have two programs with the same goal…

https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/inkscape-vs-illustrator-battle-of-the-vector-graphics-software--cms-93909

Adobe Illustrator is vector editor this is a completely different field to photoshop, gimp and krita. Illustrator in name sounds like drawing but this vector is simpler drawing designs using vector formats that can optimist well.

You find people using vector editors with laser cutters and other specialist areas as well..

Krita, gimp and photoshop are at core raster graphics editing this in fact does not suit working with vector image formats. Yes attempting to use a vector graphics editing to do raster or the reverse is path to lots of issues.

Yes a lot of places choose inkscape over illustrator.