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Originally posted by avem View PostWebP2 is a much better option than AVIF. Not only it has a ton of features required for Web and design it also currently compresses better:
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I look forward to the complete adoption of at least one standard. Things right now aren't too bad with people using PNG for images with quality they care about, and JPEG for everything else. But it would be nice to just reunite everything under one format that can do it all.
Hopefully JPEG XL or AVIF or whatever actually becomes pervasive unlike WebP. WebP support is still spotty at best, and it's annoying to deal with locally as many software packages still do not support it. I know I sound like a broken record at this point, but not even Google has fully embraced WebP. The entire Google Suite does not support WebP, and Google still primarily uses PNG throughout their sites.
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Originally posted by avem View PostWebP2 improvements:- more efficient lossy compression (~30% better than WebP, as close to AVIF as possible)
- better visual degradation at very low bitrate
- improved lossless compression (AVIF is currently worse than WebP)
- improved transparency compression
- animation support (nothing in AVIF)
- ultra-light previews (nothing in AVIF)
- lightweight incremental decoding (nothing in AVIF)
- small container overhead, tailored specifically for image compression
- full 10bit architecture (HDR10)
- strong focus on software implementation, fully multi-threaded (poor in AVIF)
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Originally posted by arun54321 View Post
Is it better than jxl? I don't think so.
Yeah, JPEGXL looks much better.
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Originally posted by avem View Post
Erm, what? Google doesn't seem to know about that:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Stev...&tbm=isch&sa=X
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Originally posted by cl333r View PostAgreed.
True. Right-click menu doesn't list Gimp as an open-with target despite GIMP supporting it, you have to launch GIMP manually and then open the image from the File->Open menu. And IIRC my image viewer doesn't support WebP yet.
And as far as image viewers go, at least gwenview has supported it for some time now.
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Originally posted by bash2bash View PostI don't expect the AVIF image format to go anywhere, since Apple refuses to support it (Safari). Who would build a website entirely with AVIF images, and not work on Apple devices? nobody...
Webp is being used by several websites, but mostly annoy users who want to save something locally.
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Webp didn't take off because its a highly mediocre file format. in terms of lossless its pretty damn good. but most people don't want lossless, they want lossy that looks close enough, and webp is mediocre for this. lossy encoding is done via vp8, so it was just kind of mediocre all around.
avif fairs a better chance, lossless is dookie to be sure. but for lossy it is fairly decent. pair that with the fact that most browsers are working towards av1 support, most of the ground work for avif is already done interms of implementing it.
whether or not people actually use it however is another story
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Originally posted by Quackdoc View PostWebp didn't take off because its a highly mediocre file format. in terms of lossless its pretty damn good. but most people don't want lossless, they want lossy that looks close enough, and webp is mediocre for this. lossy encoding is done via vp8, so it was just kind of mediocre all around.
avif fairs a better chance, lossless is dookie to be sure. but for lossy it is fairly decent. pair that with the fact that most browsers are working towards av1 support, most of the ground work for avif is already done interms of implementing it.
whether or not people actually use it however is another story
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