Plymouth Gets A DRM Renderer Plug-In

[V!NCENT]

Actually I can guess why Fedora wasn't that fast for you: Ever since Fedora 11 they had Presto-RPMs, which is the same as SUSEs Delta-patches without the trouble,

I'm sorry for calling you a liar because I think I know why it took so long for Fedora to patch on my machine if it is using delta patches: I have of those first SSD's and it could be suffering from the can't-read-and-write-at-the-same-time-bug and if Yum is constantly demanding read and write instead of just remove->install update than that could be the reason Fedora 11 took 3 hours to update compared to 15 minutes with apt-get.

[brejc8]

Actually I can guess why Fedora wasn't that fast for you:

Actually those numbers are just for the installation, the download numbers are not included because they happen before the update. But yeah, good point, yum-presto does a very good job. It saves me about 80% of download bandwidth, but that does come at a cost to the CPU processing. As it recreates the rpms it tells you how many kbps it is running at. I have a slow machine and a slow connection and it goes somewhere between 250-750kBps which is always faster than my connection (200kBps) but may be slower than other peoples. It does it in parallel while it is downloading which is good too.

From Fedora 1 to about Fedora 6 I used apt-get instead of yum because it had more features and was faster. Around Fedora 6 I went back to yum because I could no longer find any missing features and the performance difference was negligible.

[fabiank22]

14,2/142 = 10 seconds per update on avarage, while Fedora sesolves dependancys per package.Lol who the fsck are you kidding? Liar.

Actually I can guess why Fedora wasn't that fast for you: Ever since Fedora 11 they had Presto-RPMs, which is the same as SUSEs Delta-patches without the trouble, meaning instead of downloading all packages anew you just get patches and just have to download the changed files, which saves a shitload of time. Fedora 10 and previus didn't have this at release, and the servers were actually a lot slower back then, probably because of more traffic.

So yeah, I switched from (K)Ubuntu to Fedora, there are many advantages, including:

- KDE not being broken as hell all the time
- better X-Server-Team, doing faster and more stable updates
- Not having to use half of Gnome
- Better artwork (Kubuntu is ugly, sorry to say it, but it is)

It also has disadvantages, for example it's harder to get codecs and the communitiy isn't half as good as that of Ubuntu.

[brejc8]

14,2/142 = 10 seconds per update on avarage, while Fedora sesolves dependancys per package.Lol who the fsck are you kidding? Liar.

I don't want to get picky but 14:20 / 142 = 6 seconds per package.
Looking though my logs I get somewhere around 2.5 seconds per package on long stretches and I would be happy to show you logs from many machines I admin.

[V!NCENT]

*sigh* /yum/log/

Oct 01 16:07:18 Updated
... 142 Updates/around 200 Megs later
Oct 01 16:21:42 Updated

So yeah, 14 Minutes isn't what I would call a whole night, but then again I really like to sleep late...

14,2/142 = 10 seconds per update on avarage, while Fedora sesolves dependancys per package.Lol who the fsck are you kidding? Liar.

[Xheyther]

I agree with nanonyme since for my daily dose of internet forum and mail it works perfectly !

[nanonyme]

Ubuntu LTS is supported for more than a year...

Fedora sadly is just a testing ground for new tech that is the latest of the greatest but Red Hat (CentOS) is where it's actually made for end usage...

You mean enterprise end usage? Fedora is plenty fine for normal users.

[fabiank22]

Ever compared package installs with Ubuntu? You're in for a complete laugh here; if you need to apply like about 50 updates (right after clean install) it would take ubuntu no longer than let's say 15 minutes in total, including OpenOffice.org, Linux, X.org, a complete nVidia driver, etc at max. With Fedora you can leave stuff patching overnight and I'm not joking! Intsalling just one package on Ubuntu might take 5 minutes but when that's done Fedora would still be updating the repositories and if you get lucky it might be 'already' be at the resolving dependancies stage. ROFL.

*sigh* /yum/log/

Oct 01 16:07:18 Updated
... 142 Updates/around 200 Megs later
Oct 01 16:21:42 Updated

So yeah, 14 Minutes isn't what I would call a whole night, but then again I really like to sleep late...

[V!NCENT]

Ubuntu LTS is supported for more than a year...

Fedora sadly is just a testing ground for new tech that is the latest of the greatest but Red Hat (CentOS) is where it's actually made for end usage...

[panda84]

Take ubuntu for example.Every year there's Ubuntu and Fedora comparison and always Ubuntu matches or exceeds Fedora in speed.No matter that Fedora removed deprecated HAL.

Take security for example. If every year you compare Ubuntu and Fedora security Fedora will beat out Ubuntu. So what? Nothing.
They are both generally supported for <= a year and a half so pretty useless for non-geek usage.

So just pick up the distro that better applies to your geek soul, and let's get back in theme: DRM in Plymouth.