X.Org To Proceed Migrating Their Code & Bugs To GitLab

[woprandi]

This is redonkculous! MS didn't do anything bad with Github, yet, and maybe never will, so where this is coming from? Out of pure spite?
I wonder what Linus will do with his "linux" repo, I'm betting he take on pragmatic approach and will stay on Github unless MS will do something silly.

nothing good neither

[treba]

I can totally understand that linux is still developed via mailing lists, at least on the highest level. But for smaller, not so fast moving projects, I'm VERY happy if they use gitlab. I'm currently writing some patches for xorg and when I posted them the first time, I did so via the mailing list. Now I'll wait until everything is moved, as it makes managing PR much easier, IMO.

[corzo]

This is redonkculous! MS didn't do anything bad with Github, yet, and maybe never will, so where this is coming from? Out of pure spite?
I wonder what Linus will do with his "linux" repo, I'm betting he take on pragmatic approach and will stay on Github unless MS will do something silly.

I know Microsoft requires little knowledge/experience for their astroturfers, but at least I'd expect them being able to read. Dropping your comment here without even reading the article shows very little respect to the people who has to read your BS.

BTW, Linux kernel sources don't have to stay anywhere but in kernel.org, where it's always been.

[nanonyme]

I know Microsoft requires little knowledge/experience for their astroturfers, but at least I'd expect them being able to read. Dropping your comment here without even reading the article shows very little respect to the people who has to read your BS.

BTW, Linux kernel sources don't have to stay anywhere but in kernel.org, where it's always been.

Yeah, I'd say most the only reason for having Linux code on Github is really on saving on hosting costs by taking advantage of Git's distributed nature and have a *mirror* of primary data on Github. Even then, it only really helps with first-time cloners. I would assume anyone who really cares is using a multi-tier repo hierarchy anyway where they keep their own primary mirror of kernel.org, then have developers clone from that. (and do not care at all about Github)

[M@yeulC]

Nice. I'm personally waiting for https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xdg/shared-mime-info/ to migrate before trying to see if I can fix countless misdetected file types

And if a lot of people contribue, they might have to separate test cases

[sajmon5544]

I know Microsoft requires little knowledge/experience for their astroturfers, but at least I'd expect them being able to read. Dropping your comment here without even reading the article shows very little respect to the people who has to read your BS.

Feeling better? FYI I've read the article. Maybe I didn't articulate my thought very well but what wanted to convey is general unhappiness with hundreds if not thousands of project moving to GL just for sole reason - MS has bought Github. What I liked in Github is it provided easy way to contribute in many many OS project without a fuss. Now it's being ruined.

If you want something more recent then read Daniel Vetter on why the Linux kernel isn't hosted on Github.

Thanks for the link. Will educate

[bridgman]

Feeling better? FYI I've read the article. Maybe I didn't articulate my thought very well but what wanted to convey is general unhappiness with hundreds if not thousands of project moving to GL just for sole reason - MS has bought Github.

I don't think it was the way you articulated your thoughts - it was just that X.Org was never on GitHub in the first place.

[eydee]

The awkward moment when even your name is your own domain, but you can't keep your stuff there. So what exactly is preventing them from setting up their own bugtracker on x.org?

[bridgman]

AFAIK freedesktop.org was originally shared between X.Org and a few other related projects that X.Org wasn't directly involved with (like Mesa) but for the last few years X.Org has been pretty active in Mesa as well. It's probably fair to say that freedesktop.org is the infrastructure part of X.Org these days.

If you are asking "why freedesktop.org rather than X.Org ?" that's a fair question - X.Org used to be more narrowly focused in the past but the two are probably closer to being interchangeable these days.

[oiaohm]

The awkward moment when even your name is your own domain, but you can't keep your stuff there. So what exactly is preventing them from setting up their own bugtracker on x.org?

This is a case they cannot take care of their own domain. If x.org was more financially sound this would be different.

AFAIK freedesktop.org was originally shared between X.Org and a few other related projects that X.Org wasn't directly involved with (like Mesa) but for the last few years X.Org has been pretty active in Mesa as well. It's probably fair to say that freedesktop.org is the infrastructure part of X.Org these days.

If you are asking "why freedesktop.org rather than X.Org ?" that's a fair question - X.Org used to be more narrowly focused in the past but the two are probably closer to being interchangeable these days.

bridgman please do not say freedesktop and x.org is interchangeable there are not.

If you dig a little

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/

The freedesktop.org servers are generously hosted by Portland State University. Intel, HP and Google have sponsored the servers themselves and Collabora are sponsoring sysadmin time.

The reality here is freedesktop project has very stable long term home with very stable sponsoring parties. Intel and HP provided hardware to freedesktop at the start have have been providing hardware ever since. Google and Collabora are the newest parties.

https://www.x.org/wiki/

x.org these days is part of "Software in the Public Interest, Inc."(SPI) You have to remember before coming part of SPI x.org also lost their domain due to failing to pay the domain bill. Just read down that front page and notice they still mention Sun as existing company.

Reality X.org has history of horrible management and not a stable stream of funds let alone a stream of hardware.
Freedesktop has had history decent management back up by stream of hardware with properly paid administrators and a proper stream of funds.

The reality here is X.org is not financially able to take care of their own servers. its only really kindness by freedesktop that has kept x.org with hosting. Old saying applies beggars cannot be choosers. In this relationship X.org is the beggar. Since freedesktop already was migrating to it own gitlab party to reduce it own overheads x.org kind has to toe the line.

Its something with all the graphics card vendors they have never worked out how to fund x.org so it can take care of itself.