Sony Engineer Talks Up Using Flutter + Wayland For Their Embedded Interfaces

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Phoronix: Sony Engineer Talks Up Using Flutter + Wayland For Their Embedded Interfaces

A Sony engineer confirmed at this week's Embedded Linux Conference Europe that the company has begun using the Flutter toolkit atop Wayland as their means of developing user-interfaces on embedded systems...

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[Chewi Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chewi]

Nice to see someone daring to use something other than Electron these days.

[skeevy420 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close skeevy420]

So I'm reading the slides where I've made it this far and now can't stop laughing:

GTK - Not a modern design just like smartphone apps because it is for desktop apps.

GTK3 looking too modern is my biggest dislike of it. Lots of y'all feel that way too. I read the comments here. But then I realized what it really is -- licensing. They don't like the GPL. All the stuff from the first slide of "what we used to use" is all BSD and commercially licensed software. Flutter is also BSD'd. I'd rather them not make up reasons like "not modern enough" because it's, like, GTK3 is one of the most modern UI environments.

I'm curious what they're doing on FreeBSD/Playstation since it's not like Flutter/Wayland are things readily available there or if this means they'll shift from a BSD base to a Linux base. My thoughts are -- if the Linux kernel has everything they need they could pull a Goolge/Android situation with their consoles and TVs and use a closed up Sony Linux OS with some links to the GPL stuff they used buried in the docs.

I'm gonna get back to the slides.

[sykobee Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sykobee]

So I'm reading the slides where I've made it this far and now can't stop laughing:

GTK3 looking too modern is my biggest dislike of it.

By design I believe they mean architecture, not look, which would be the first aspect that would be customised by anyone implementing it.

But certainly the license comes into it here.

[zxy_thf Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close zxy_thf]

Page 15/16 is interesting. Didn't know SoC vendors are finishing the transition to Wayland.

[schmidtbag Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close schmidtbag]

This thread is the kind of place that makes me lose hope for the world. So much strong negativity, over the most petty of things.

[dylanmtaylor Phoronix Member Find all posts View Profile Close dylanmtaylor]

Anyone track down the video from slide 26? Couldn't find it at https://elinux.org/ELC_Europe_2020_Presentations

[ezst036 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ezst036]

Sony does plan on contributing more to the Linux build of Google's Flutter library moving forward.

What about Wayland? Any hope for contributions to mainline?

[Britoid Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Britoid]

Page 15/16 is interesting. Didn't know SoC vendors are finishing the transition to Wayland.

Wayland basically lets them shoehorn their Android drivers and only focus on them.

EGL/DRM drivers are much much smaller and easier to mantain than the respective X.org counterparts.

[bug77 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bug77]

I'm no expert, but l heard Flutter apps won't pick up system proxy settings. Then again, this would probably be a pro for Sony, who likes to region lock everything...