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Originally posted by stikonas View PostI doubt their claims. It is unlikely that X server would survive till 2019. I don't think they will port legacy driver to Wayland. So they "might" support new X releases till 2019 but with the last X server version from e.g. 2017...
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Originally posted by bridgman View PostLeft to "just" the open source drivers ? I can't believe you typed that with a straight face.
Everyone wanted open source drivers instead of Catalyst and now we're complaining that we have to use the open source drivers ?
"Just" the open source drivers ? Sorry, I still can't believe you said that.
*bridgman bangs head on deskAll opinions are my own not those of my employer if you know who they are.
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Just open source catalyst and deprecate the blob. No one is buying the "OpenGL secret scauce" argument against open sourcing anyway. It's cool that they want to reduce duplicate work by having just one kernel driver, but why stop there? That would make NVIDIA look like the only major GPU vendor that doesn't do things the Linux-way. Still the Linux support NVIDIA offers is outstanding, which kind of makes you forgive them not having open drivers.Last edited by blackout23; 28 March 2014, 01:02 PM.
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I must admit that now I was forced to use just the opensource radeon drivers for my HD4890 (I actually had 2 cards, but there was no game that could max out a single card, and the airflow was terrible), I actually begin to like it.
There are more games on steam that work properly on the opensource drivers while not working with the catalyst driver, than there are games that work better with the closed source drivers than with the open source drivers on this card.
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Originally posted by Nuc!eoN View PostFinally some stuff for me:
I am not a fanboy.
The article is distorting the reality, meaning it suggests a suggests a critical way of thinking towards AMDs Linux support. Since leaving some facts out, I don't consider it being 100% accurate. Btw the author even suggests that it's just a Linux problem:
I have marked the striking words in bold red for you're convenience. (bold didn't seem to be enough)
My basic argument is said AMD sucks. In terms of long term support.
(On a side note: I was raging when AMD annouced to drop my beloved HD 4770 and I was mainly bothered about Windows, since it's my OS of choice for playing games. Also there an outstanding bug on Windows, that those faggots are unwilling to fix. On Linux I use the Open Source driver.)
I am not saying the Author has done this out of purpose, but it maybe a simple lack of knowledge.
I am sorry to disappoint you, but this is a general Linux problem. AMD is not to blame here.
EDIT: Ah thanks @Ericg, I see you were faster than me
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Originally posted by Nuc!eoN View PostMy basic argument is said AMD sucks. In terms of long term support.
So that is understandible and it is good support model to me .
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Originally posted by blackout23 View PostJust open source catalyst and deprecate the blob. No one is buying the "OpenGL secret scauce" argument against open sourcing anyway. It's cool that they want to reduce duplicate work by having just one kernel driver, but why stop there? That would make NVIDIA look like the only major GPU vendor that doesn't do things the Linux-way. Still the Linux support NVIDIA offers is outstanding, which kind of makes you forgive them not having open drivers.
No, we shouldn't forgive people or companies for supplying proprietary code and technologies, even if they are amazing.Last edited by Calinou; 28 March 2014, 03:08 PM.
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Originally posted by Nuc!eoN View PostThis information distorts the reality. AMD didn't drop Legacy support for Linux alone, but also for Windows at the same time. I consider it misleading the way you posted it, inclining that AMD neglects Linux suport, while it's being the same for Windows. This is not the first that time that you ignored this fact in your articles.
Yes, but there is one thing that stands out. While the Windows driver recieved an update for it to work on Windows 8 you don't see them do the same to support newer kernels or newer X servers.
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