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  • #91
    Originally posted by szymon_g
    was there any communist country that didn't end up running 're-education' camps for enemies of the working class? either camps or just old plain shot in the back of the head?
    1.
    Why should this be singular to communistic countries ?
    Was there any non-commie country without any murder ?
    Pope was poisoned in Vatican FFS.

    2. What makes you think that some MoFos in those commie countries didn't need to be shot ?
    They haven't transitioned because "capitalism" was working so great for them...



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    • #92
      Originally posted by sdack View Post
      In China is it not the will of the people, but the will of the CCP. In China can you sometimes not even talk about it like we do here on a forum.
      You are full of nonsense. Just because you can't read Chinese and don't visit any Chinese websites doesn't mean no political discourse exists. There are so many online places in China where people can discuss their political views and disagree with the CPC.

      Originally posted by sdack View Post
      So all your rant, as pacifistic, positive and inspiring it may be, is plain bull shit, because today are you playing one tune and tomorrow when women and children in Afghanistan get once again raped and murdered by the Taliban will you play another tune, and then it is war again. We do not want to sit around idle and watch it happen and just talk about it, when we can do something against it. Maybe you do, but I sure rather see those bastards dead than have them murder more people and to spread terror across the Middle East and the rest of the world.
      Bullshit. The Chinese Foreign Ministry met with the Taliban in Tianjin yesterday and imposed a clear bottom line that if it is to take control of Afghanistan as the new ruling party,they must commit to severing all links with terrorism and ensuring some degree of equality among the Afghans. otherwise China will not provide them with the recognition, legitimacy and assistance that they need to rebuild Afghanistan.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by szymon_g
        lol, what an idiot you are.
        No. You only missed the sarcasm. More luck next time, eh?

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
          You are full of nonsense. Just because you can't read Chinese and don't visit any Chinese websites doesn't mean no political discourse exists. There are so many online places in China where people can discuss their political views and disagree with the CPC.

          Bullshit. The Chinese Foreign Ministry met with the Taliban in Tianjin yesterday and imposed a clear bottom line that if it is to take control of Afghanistan as the new ruling party,they must commit to severing all links with terrorism and ensuring some degree of equality among the Afghans. otherwise China will not provide them with the recognition, legitimacy and assistance that they need to rebuild Afghanistan.
          It is easy to discuss political views as long as these are in line with the CCP and reflects the CCP's own discussions. Complain too much and talk with too many people and you get prosecuted for "causing trouble". Happens in China every day. They even closed book stores in Hong Kong for books they do not like.

          China can talk all day with the Taliban and impose all sort of things. Even the Vatican will be talking to them at some point. Do you know why? Because we killed the Taliban over and over again until they got the message.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by sdack View Post
            It is easy to discuss political views as long as these are in line with the CCP and reflects the CCP's own discussions.
            Sure, sure. CCP...
            Meanwhile in "democracy":
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQyRCAFnwD4

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Brane215 View Post
              Sure, sure. CCP...
              Meanwhile in "democracy":
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQyRCAFnwD4
              This is a proposal.

              It then does not apply to democracy, but it applies to all nations. They all have laws, which uphold their citizens not to publish classified documents. We here in the UK have been rather forgiving in this regard and that we sort of allowed government employees to publish classified information as long as it did not do any damage, or given only mild punishment when they believed it could not do any harm.

              Just recently did an employee leave documents at a bus stop. Another published military documents on a tank in a game forum, because he accused the game maker of not representing the tank right (yes, he was a troll who needed to be right on a forum and used classified material to win an argument!).

              So now are politicians proposing a harder law. It is now being discussed and I guarantee you that it will see backfire from the opposition, House of Lords and the public. The very fact that you can pick it up, talk about it and discuss it in public is part of the process and our democracy.

              Try leaking secrets in China or just discuss the government's secrets laws in public. Have fun with that.

              If you want to get upset about the UK's laws, then have a look at this:

              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-58017099

              A guy who killed 16 cats gets 5 years of jail time. Do this in China and you can call yourself a cook or a chef.
              Last edited by sdack; 30 July 2021, 07:36 AM.

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              • #97
                Wow. UK's lack of care for data protection during their otherwise deeply touching apreciation for human dignity and life in general.
                But a total disregard for government's active role in Assange capture or assassination.
                But that is old example.
                How about fresh one:
                Boris Johnson launches Secrets Act to imprison Journalists who dare question government
                https://youtu.be/xQyRCAFnwD4
                Last edited by Brane215; 30 July 2021, 09:16 AM.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by sdack View Post
                  A guy who killed 16 cats gets 5 years of jail time. Do this in China and you can call yourself a cook or a chef.
                  But in China, it's not exactly unknown for corrupt politicians to end up in jail or have their dance session with firing squad.
                  Meanwhile, in "Democracy"...
                  Last edited by Brane215; 30 July 2021, 09:16 AM.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by sdack View Post
                    So now are politicians proposing a harder law. It is now being discussed and I guarantee you that it will see backfire from the opposition, House of Lords and the public. The very fact that you can pick it up, talk about it and discuss it in public is part of the process and our democracy.
                    What a joke. Yes, you can talk about it. As long as nothing really depends on you.
                    Try changing things and you may very well get Assanged, Epsteined or McAfeed.

                    You have A PEDOPHILE IN ROYAL FAMILY that is still very free and politically active FFS.
                    And that's a typical "modern Democracy".
                    Last edited by Brane215; 30 July 2021, 09:11 AM.

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                    • Brane215 : You are angry and need to clear your head to decide what it is you want. Is your problem that you do not have enough power and control over what happens in your country? If so then you will certainly like the CCP. They leave very little room and take action even if it means to violate internal human rights like we have seen with the imprisonment and reeducation of an entire culture. But when you are willing to give up some of it and leave more freedom to your people then they will do things you will not always like. There is no such system as a perfect system. So which is it you rather have?

                      And remember that in a democracy can you start your own party and drum up support for it when you are not happy with the existing parties. To a certain point of course, meaning, as long as your party does not incite violence or commits other crimes. Laws can then be changed once your party wins elections. So when you do not like what Boris Johnson does then do not vote for him and his party, but find a party that supports what you want or start your own, and change it.
                      Last edited by sdack; 30 July 2021, 10:14 AM.

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