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  • #71
    Originally posted by leo_sk View Post
    I am surprised so many people support China/Chinese policies. I know there are deficiencies in democracies, but to look at China as beacon of light is just plain foolish. Guess its really quite easy to get away murdering, slaughtering people and destroying entire cultures as long as there is lots of money and good tech to throw around
    Sayragul Sauytbay
    This one clearly had been reading one too many horror stories.

    “Seeing an old woman having her skin flayed.”

    Starved throughout an entire week but being force fed BBQ pork on Fridays.“

    “Personally raped in front of 200 inmates.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-horrors.html

    This all sounds horrible until you look at her original testimony, being that “I didn’t see any violence.”

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...-re-education/

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    • #72
      Originally posted by leo_sk View Post
      I am surprised so many people support China/Chinese policies. I know there are deficiencies in democracies, but to look at China as beacon of light is just plain foolish. Guess its really quite easy to get away murdering, slaughtering people and destroying entire cultures as long as there is lots of money and good tech to throw around
      Rushan Abbas
      This woman claims that she personally knows people who were locked up in the so-called concentration camps. Yet when a simple blogger challenged her to provide more facts and evidence, she can do nothing but play the victim card and get all defensive. She doesn't even show any emotion when the blogger talks about her sister who was supposedly also locked up.

      And she used to work in Guantanamo Bay.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by leo_sk View Post
        I am surprised so many people support China/Chinese policies. I know there are deficiencies in democracies, but to look at China as beacon of light is just plain foolish. Guess its really quite easy to get away murdering, slaughtering people and destroying entire cultures as long as there is lots of money and good tech to throw around
        A short summary of known contradictions in testimonies are published in https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/0...7880134f11200d

        An Italian institute has recently published a study that casts huge doubt on the claims made by the US..

        -------------------------

        Lastly, you're telling me that the US, with all its spy technology and access to spy satellites that can take HD pictures of streets and roads, have not even been able to provide any images of refugees fleeing from China, and the resulting humanitarian crisis that comes from it, if such things really happened?

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
          A short summary of known contradictions in testimonies are published in https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/0...7880134f11200d ...
          Moon of Alabama, really?



          I get that one can have dislikes and that some people will then reply impulsively without thinking on what has been said, which is how I interpret several of the latest replies. But to link to a website as reference, which refers to itself as the place "Where Barflies Get Together" and to have been inspired by a whiskey bar is just mental.
          Last edited by sdack; 26 July 2021, 05:11 AM.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by sdack View Post

            Moon of Alabama, really?

            I get that one can have dislikes and that some people will then reply impulsively without thinking on what has been said, which is how I interpret several of the latest replies. But to link to a website as reference, which refers to itself as the place "Where Barflies Get Together" and to have been inspired by a whiskey bar is just mental.
            I linked MoA because they have a writeup summarising all the conflicting testimonies which are linked to their original sources.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
              I linked MoA because they have a writeup summarising all the conflicting testimonies which are linked to their original sources.
              The word lunacy comes from the word luna, meaning Moon, and originates from people acting crazy on a full Moon. A website, which calls itself "Moon of Alabama" really is just a site for crazy people, a loony bin. You want to keep this in mind when you keep reading there.

              The quantity of links also does not say anything about their quality. So have we seen how QAnon strung together a story on a cabal of elites who were injecting dead babies. And recently have we seen how people stuck magnets to their skin to prove that vaccines are magnetic. Linking to a source does not make a source true, nor is a link a reliable measure for the truth.
              Last edited by sdack; 26 July 2021, 07:59 AM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by brucehoult View Post

                Uh .. no.

                Assange spent from 19 June 2012 until 11 April 2019 hiding in the embassy of Ecuador, of his own free will.
                Riiight.
                He spent couple of years there "out of his free will".
                All that time, CIA+MI6 have played preposterous games outside and inside the embassy, tried to organized his kidnapping and murder etc.
                That's "democracy" and "freedom" in real life.

                Incidentally, you are making couple of good points. There is no peaceful life with Rotschilds& Co and their assets.
                They are using assets that they have to maximal effect. With Assange, they own that part of judicial and political system.

                Conventional legal apparatus is just a tool of opression and mass executions in human swarm wars.
                As nVidia has put it succinctly - This game will be finished "as it was meant to be played".
                No Nurmberg this time, no f**ng around with old farts in black kimonos and long hair tupees etc.



                Last edited by Brane215; 26 July 2021, 10:42 AM.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by leo_sk View Post
                  I am surprised so many people support China/Chinese policies. I know there are deficiencies in democracies, but to look at China as beacon of light is just plain foolish. Guess its really quite easy to get away murdering, slaughtering people and destroying entire cultures as long as there is lots of money and good tech to throw around
                  Easy? Of course it's easy! Look at how easily the US has been doing it for a rather long time, taking over from Western Europe in their centuries.

                  I'm probably a bit biassed, being based out of one of those countries the US has in the past arranged for the replacement of the locally elected government when they didn't feel the economic policies of the current one was friendly enough towards US corporate interests. And Australia isn't even one of the really bad instances! (Yes, there is a reason the current and recent governments of this country love sucking up to US-based multinationals specialising in stripping the local resources at bargain basement - usually Australian taxpayer subsidised - rates, and not even having to pay any tax on what they take, and it goes back to 1975 when a particular federal government was determined not to let that happen. The only upside was that we got off with really really lightly with just a political-backroom-type bloodless foreign-forced coup, unlike a few dozen other places around here!)

                  Not a big fan of China, but good grief listening to the US and its sycophants go on as if they are anything but first place in that particular nasty little game is galling!

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Brane215 View Post

                    Riiight.
                    He spent couple of years there "out of his free will".
                    All that time, CIA+MI6 have played preposterous games outside and inside the embassy, tried to organized his kidnapping and murder etc.
                    I find it quite amazing that in seven years he didn't find a chance to sneak out in disguise (or in the back of a van) at 4 AM to a waiting small plane or boat.

                    Did the UK police really devote THAT level of 24/7 surveillance for someone who the Swedish police wanted to question about taking off a condom?

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by leo_sk View Post
                      I am surprised so many people support China/Chinese policies. I know there are deficiencies in democracies, but to look at China as beacon of light is just plain foolish. Guess its really quite easy to get away murdering, slaughtering people and destroying entire cultures as long as there is lots of money and good tech to throw around
                      [whataboutinsm]
                      I am surprised so many people support United States/Western foreign policies. I know there are deficiencies in democracies, but to look at United States/West as beacon of light is just plain foolish. Guess its really quite easy to get away murdering, slaughtering people and destroying entire cultures <Insert countries here, example: Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Cuba, Vietnam, Africa, South American countries(we invaded Panama for example), Philippines(a victim of US war of aggression), as long as there is lots of money, OIL to take, to throw around.
                      [/whataboutism] The statement enclosed is 100% anchored in reality, than your statement above, because you must be supporting the US war against Iraq, I will not be surprised. Western media has been brainwashing their audience ever since, and nobody dared to accused western leaders of WAR CRIMES. ISIS is just an offshoot of western's intervention in Iraq that all countries in the world now is suffering.

                      You know, whataboutism was used to justify the west's evil past. Wait, they are still on it today. Christians in the west are persecuted, there is no freedom if you are a Christian preacher, only other human rights, but not the rights of religion.

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