Loongson 3A5000 Benchmarks For These New Chinese CPUs Built On The LoongArch ISA

[aer4af]

"Defficiencies" ?
Assange is more than A DECADE in ILLEGAL imprisonment and has gone through at least TWO assasination attempts. All done by THE GOVERMENT. And his fate is still uncertain AFTER one of key witnesses has confesssed that he was been coerced by FBI into lying.
Similar examples are all around us. So many people have been "Epsteined" - McAfee being just fresh dot on the line.
Let alone "tidbits" like Epstein's appointed judge having his family members murdered etc.
That's not even worth MSM time in "democracies".
And there are thousands of similar examples.
Just one of bazzilion:
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF1ZJdwqCLQ"

But somehow, Israel vaporizing a building full of civillians and journalists isn't a genocide. Or even a massacre.
Perhaps because they weren't Uighurs.

Agree with you on China, except for Israel:

My friend, tell Hamas not to store weapons in civilian areas, and not to fire rockets from heavily civilian populated areas. And make sure you also tell Israel that they need to inform the civilian living in areas and buildings where rockets coming from to evacuate immediately before hitting it, as they claimed that they were doing this. It is easy to protect Palestine from Israeli counter attacks, just imprison the HAMAS terrorists, prevent them from firing thousands of rockets into Israeli cities. Besides, If my country for example, I am living in Mindanao Philippines, and some terrorists from Sabah Malaysia will fire thousands of rockets against Mindanao cities, what will we do? Eat popcorn?
Your answer is as good as mine.

[sdack]

[whataboutinsm]
I am surprised so many people support United States/Western foreign policies. I know there are deficiencies in democracies, but to look at United States/West as beacon of light is just plain foolish. Guess its really quite easy to get away murdering, slaughtering people and destroying entire cultures <Insert countries here, example: Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Cuba, Vietnam, Africa, South American countries(we invaded Panama for example), Philippines(a victim of US war of aggression), as long as there is lots of money, OIL to take, to throw around.
[/whataboutism] The statement enclosed is 100% anchored in reality, than your statement above, because you must be supporting the US war against Iraq, I will not be surprised. Western media has been brainwashing their audience ever since, and nobody dared to accused western leaders of WAR CRIMES. ISIS is just an offshoot of western's intervention in Iraq that all countries in the world now is suffering.

You know, whataboutism was used to justify the west's evil past. Wait, they are still on it today. Christians in the west are persecuted, there is no freedom if you are a Christian preacher, only other human rights, but not the rights of religion.

This is the view of a fool who thinks we could actually live in a world without evil. The Iraq war was started as a response to the war by Iraq against Kuwait. Can you remember this? What the West does is primarily controlled by the population and in who we vote into power. The people wanted the war. It is not democracy nor the government that causes these wars. It is the will of the people. In China is it not the will of the people, but the will of the CCP. In China can you sometimes not even talk about it like we do here on a forum. So all your rant, as pacifistic, positive and inspiring it may be, is plain bull shit, because today are you playing one tune and tomorrow when women and children in Afghanistan get once again raped and murdered by the Taliban will you play another tune, and then it is war again. We do not want to sit around idle and watch it happen and just talk about it, when we can do something against it. Maybe you do, but I sure rather see those bastards dead than have them murder more people and to spread terror across the Middle East and the rest of the world.

[PerformanceExpert]

I think it is foolish to design a new ISA like Loongson did instead of just using an established, modern ISA that already exists, such as RISC-V.
RISC-V is a modern ISA and likely very good. It would be a great choice for Loongson, much better than creating their own ISA and have to create compilers, add support to the Linux kernel, and everything. RISC-V is already bootstrapped, it already got a environment and is supported.

Is it really foolish? There is no doubt they looked at RISC-V/MIPS and copied some ideas since it is MIPS-like, but overall LoongArch is better than both. It has lots of useful instructions in the base architecture (eg. rotate, bit/byte reverse, count leading zeroes, bitinsert/extract, crc, conditional select), compare+branch with a proper 18-bit offset, branch-if-zero with 23-bit offset, branch/call with 28-bit offset, indexed loads and stores etc etc. I like the array load/stores with a bounds check built in. And most importantly, it actually has a vector extension!!! So you could say Loongson is what RISC-V could have been if it had been done right.

Looking at the results, it's not as slow as the article claims. The C-RAY result shows it gets ~80% of performance of Neoverse N1. There is no RISC-V hardware that gets anywhere near that.

[Brane215]

Agree with you on China, except for Israel:

My friend, tell Hamas not to store weapons in civilian areas, and not to fire rockets from heavily civilian populated areas.

1.
You could extend that argument to same group from other side - Adolf was pissed about rich Jewish banksters that have ignited so many wars.
So he decided to wipe them off the map. What do you do with countless innocent victims ?
According to you, they should have send message to banksters to stop stirring sh*t.

2. Rotschilds & Co have founded Israel by terroristic act and spread it by pure brutal demonstration of power. Had it not been supported by Rotshilds etc, it could never persist. Whole point of Israel is to serve as a military base - thorn in the Arab's butt. Had there been peace tommorow, Israel would starve in 1:1 competition with locals.

3. One who founds the whole friggin country on stolen land and runs it as a souvereign gets to be held responsible as one. Even if Hamas could be looked upon as criminals, Israel is three levels above that. It's a bazooka vs forrest bee comparison. Street gang might threaten you. Governmentn, supported by global banks etc may very well kill you along with everyone you know even if you are on other side of the globe.

4. What are Palestinians supposed to do ? Their very land is being stolen from them.

5. If those are rules of the game, why aren't they consistent ? While Israel is using white phosphorus bombs(!) on civilian targets are we supposed to cry about some civilians being allegedly poisoned in Aushwitz etc by gas 75+ years ago ?

6. Ben Shapiro likes to talk about daily settlement expansion as "kitchen redecoration" that was propped up by media.
But for some reason he doesn't see gas chambers as revolution in dry shower technology and Adolf as its visionary.

7. Israel is not just about Israel. Ferengi are spreading that crap globally. Surveillance State as the true ruler, simulated democracy and invisible cast system in which basically everyone else is a slave in some shade of gray. This, for example, is how Israel-style "democracy" looks as it is being forced into EU states:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/...nt_playground/

[Brane215]

was there any communist country that didn't end up running 're-education' camps for enemies of the working class? either camps or just old plain shot in the back of the head?

1.
Why should this be singular to communistic countries ?
Was there any non-commie country without any murder ?
Pope was poisoned in Vatican FFS.

2. What makes you think that some MoFos in those commie countries didn't need to be shot ?
They haven't transitioned because "capitalism" was working so great for them...

[Sonadow]

In China is it not the will of the people, but the will of the CCP. In China can you sometimes not even talk about it like we do here on a forum.

You are full of nonsense. Just because you can't read Chinese and don't visit any Chinese websites doesn't mean no political discourse exists. There are so many online places in China where people can discuss their political views and disagree with the CPC.

So all your rant, as pacifistic, positive and inspiring it may be, is plain bull shit, because today are you playing one tune and tomorrow when women and children in Afghanistan get once again raped and murdered by the Taliban will you play another tune, and then it is war again. We do not want to sit around idle and watch it happen and just talk about it, when we can do something against it. Maybe you do, but I sure rather see those bastards dead than have them murder more people and to spread terror across the Middle East and the rest of the world.

Bullshit. The Chinese Foreign Ministry met with the Taliban in Tianjin yesterday and imposed a clear bottom line that if it is to take control of Afghanistan as the new ruling party,they must commit to severing all links with terrorism and ensuring some degree of equality among the Afghans. otherwise China will not provide them with the recognition, legitimacy and assistance that they need to rebuild Afghanistan.

[sdack]

lol, what an idiot you are.

No. You only missed the sarcasm. More luck next time, eh?

[sdack]

You are full of nonsense. Just because you can't read Chinese and don't visit any Chinese websites doesn't mean no political discourse exists. There are so many online places in China where people can discuss their political views and disagree with the CPC.

Bullshit. The Chinese Foreign Ministry met with the Taliban in Tianjin yesterday and imposed a clear bottom line that if it is to take control of Afghanistan as the new ruling party,they must commit to severing all links with terrorism and ensuring some degree of equality among the Afghans. otherwise China will not provide them with the recognition, legitimacy and assistance that they need to rebuild Afghanistan.

It is easy to discuss political views as long as these are in line with the CCP and reflects the CCP's own discussions. Complain too much and talk with too many people and you get prosecuted for "causing trouble". Happens in China every day. They even closed book stores in Hong Kong for books they do not like.

China can talk all day with the Taliban and impose all sort of things. Even the Vatican will be talking to them at some point. Do you know why? Because we killed the Taliban over and over again until they got the message.

[Brane215]

It is easy to discuss political views as long as these are in line with the CCP and reflects the CCP's own discussions.

Sure, sure. CCP...
Meanwhile in "democracy":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQyRCAFnwD4

[sdack]

Sure, sure. CCP...
Meanwhile in "democracy":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQyRCAFnwD4

This is a proposal.

It then does not apply to democracy, but it applies to all nations. They all have laws, which uphold their citizens not to publish classified documents. We here in the UK have been rather forgiving in this regard and that we sort of allowed government employees to publish classified information as long as it did not do any damage, or given only mild punishment when they believed it could not do any harm.

Just recently did an employee leave documents at a bus stop. Another published military documents on a tank in a game forum, because he accused the game maker of not representing the tank right (yes, he was a troll who needed to be right on a forum and used classified material to win an argument!).

So now are politicians proposing a harder law. It is now being discussed and I guarantee you that it will see backfire from the opposition, House of Lords and the public. The very fact that you can pick it up, talk about it and discuss it in public is part of the process and our democracy.

Try leaking secrets in China or just discuss the government's secrets laws in public. Have fun with that.

If you want to get upset about the UK's laws, then have a look at this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-58017099

A guy who killed 16 cats gets 5 years of jail time. Do this in China and you can call yourself a cook or a chef.