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The Sandy Bridge Core i7 3960X Benchmarked Against Today's Six-Core / 12 Thread AMD/Intel CPUs
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That $999 Sandy Bridge would cost $1140 in today's dollars.
But also, the depreciation left of that same Sandy Bridge in 2019 is down to zero.
The average used price now is $99.
Since AMD didn't have anything to counter at the time, it's value was somewhat maintained.
Now that Zen is out, it clearly shows how badly Intel was overpricing even then.
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My 3960X is still running strong in 2019: results are about 1.5-2X of yours with this CPU. I tested against your 1909137-AS-3960XRYZE03 results and almost in every test I get 1.5-2X better score. My 3960X is slightly OC to 4 GHz@all core, and Ubuntu is 20.04(newer compiler, etc), but this could not so massively boost perf. on old hardware. Smth is wrong with your 3960X: it is seriously underpowered. Maybe you're using slow 2xchannel memory(you said it's 4 channel, but please check)? Mine is 16 GB = 4 channel x 4 GB DDR3 2133 CL11 XMP profile (which should be used with these CPUs to achieve proper performance). I see my 3960X only a bit lags behind R5 2600X, and geomean of all results is only about 1.5-2X slower than R5 3600X. What I get in some tests:test ph 3960X stock ubuntu 18.04 My 3960X @ 4.0 ubuntu 20.04 diff, X build-linux-kernel, s 247 132 1.87 build-php, s 140 82 1.7 build-llvm, s 1484 745 1.99 svt-av1, FPS 1.9 3.4 1.78 nginx, req. per s 10500 18600 1.77 apache, req. per s 12386 15595 1.26 mcperf Get, ops per s 31019 53260 1.71 redis GET 254685 1906000 7.48 perl interpreter, s 0.00176 0.00119 1.48 hackbench c8 process, s 75.7 41.6 1.81 indigobench super car, Msamples/s 0.94 1.7 1.8 blender BMW27, s 706 389 1.81 node-express-loadtest, req. per s 2831 4944 1.74 rodinia v 2.4 CFD, s 78 46 1.69
And this goes on for almost every test in your result named 1909137-AS-3960XRYZE03. Please re-run your tests, you have smth seriously wrong with 3960X.
Here is my result published for reference (normalized view):
OpenBenchmarking.org, Phoronix Test Suite, Linux benchmarking, automated benchmarking, benchmarking results, benchmarking repository, open source benchmarking, benchmarking test profiles
System tests are using newer versions of apps: gimp, darktable, etc, so their results are separate in the end. Disregard indigobench results - these are GPU not CPU result, phoronix-test-suite has a bug: it is not able to get CPU results from the output if both CPU & GPU scores are present.
Also note the buggy 5.7 GHz frequency detected: it is not able to get the correct CPU freq, actually it is 4.0 GHz.
Last edited by dad_ph; 12 November 2019, 12:25 PM.
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Originally posted by dad_ph View PostAnd this goes on for almost every test in your result named 1909137-AS-3960XRYZE03. Please re-run your tests, you have smth seriously wrong with 3960X.
l1tf: Mitigation of PTE Inversion;
VMX: conditional cache flushes SMT vulnerable +
mds: Mitigation of Clear buffers; SMT vulnerable +
meltdown: Mitigation of PTI +
spec_store_bypass: Mitigation of SSB disabled via prctl and seccomp +
spectre_v1: Mitigation of __user pointer sanitization +
spectre_v2: Mitigation of Full generic retpoline
IBPB: conditional IBRS_FW
STIBP: conditional RSB filling
and storage config?
Disk: 500GB Samsung SSD 860
Also, some Sandybridge-E motherboards only have a couple SATA-3 ports. Mine only had 2, with the rest being SATA-2. Maybe he accidentally plugged the SSD into a SATA-2 port.
Also, he doesn't say how full it is, which tends to affect write performance. Especially, if you never run fstrim.
Anyway, thanks for posting up your results.Last edited by coder; 16 November 2019, 06:30 AM.
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Originally posted by coder View PostWhat about security mitigations?
Core i7 3960X 4 GHz DDR3 2133 4x4GB CL11:
HTML Code:l1tf: Mitigation of PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes SMT vulnerable + mds: Mitigation of Clear buffers; SMT vulnerable + meltdown: Mitigation of PTI + spec_store_bypass: Mitigation of SSB disabled via prctl and seccomp + spectre_v1: Mitigation of usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization + spectre_v2: Mitigation of Full generic retpoline IBPB: conditional IBRS_FW STIBP: conditional RSB filling
SSD/storage has nothing to do here: all the benchmarks used are only CPU/memory bound, so storage affects 0 results. My system/boot drive is very fast PCI-E SSD (samsung 950 pro 500 GB), but I install and run all the PTS tests off the hard drive. (6 TB WD black, I have only 10 GB space left on my linux partition of SSD)
I'm surprised someone is still interested in LGA2011 system results I posted it to emphasize that actually HEDT 6C/12T from 2011 is still not so bad compared to at least AMD R5 2600X, it is ~ R5 1600 I think, and in some games it even may beat it, so the improvement (upgrading to modern 6C/12T CPU) is actually "not so big". And used 6-8 core sandy or ivy bridge e/ep (OC to 4.5+ GHz especially) are still strong in 2019. Intel CPU has so small progress in 8 years: take 9900K and I doubt you could double my results in every possible load, it's a shame. OC SB-E to 4.5-4.7(which should be possible in case of proper liquid cooling) and the advantage of 9900K is even less than that.
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Originally posted by dad_ph View PostI'm surprised someone is still interested in LGA2011 system results I posted it to emphasize that actually HEDT 6C/12T from 2011 is still not so bad compared to at least AMD R5 2600X,
Originally posted by dad_ph View Postliquid cooling
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