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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by MVinhas View Post
    On Windows, better than a GTX950 in DirectX12/Vulkan and worse on DX11/OpenGL.
    Depends on reviewer it seems , here in Doom it is faster then GTX 950 OC in OpenGL too



    And Vulkan:



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  • starshipeleven
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    Oh come on.

    Originally posted by Chewi View Post
    I'm not a cooling expert but my HD4670 at 59W TDP actually cooled better with a Zalman heatsink than it did with the shitty fan it came with. 75W doesn't seem like that much more.
    You mean this? https://www.quietpc.com/sap-hd4670-ult
    Many HD4670 had similar heatsinks on the other side like it.

    I'd say it is a bit cheating as with the cooler on that side it's getting some airflow from CPU fan, and also plain heat convection helps unless you keep your case horizontal or something.

    Originally posted by Adarion View Post
    I had a passively cooled nearly 110 W TDP HD3870 (Sapphire Ultimate) and well, it worked.
    You mean this card? https://www.techpowerup.com/56384/sa...timate-edition

    Same as above, it's a bit cheating, it's not totally fanless.

    Still interesting, but I've yet to see modern cards with the cooler on the other side.

    But there were even coolers for CPUs up to 95W+ so it's possible, but you won't see it often.
    There still are and still sell, they are bigass full-heatpipe shiny things though. https://www.quietpc.com/nof-icepipe

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  • starshipeleven
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    stupid vBullettin.

    Originally posted by Chewi View Post
    I'm not a cooling expert but my HD4670 at 59W TDP actually cooled better with a Zalman heatsink than it did with the shitty fan it came with. 75W doesn't seem like that much more.
    You mean this? https://www.quietpc.com/sap-hd4670-ult
    Many HD4670 had similar heatsinks on the other side like it.

    I'd say it is a bit cheating as with the cooler on that side it's getting some airflow from CPU fan, and also plain heat convection helps unless you keep your case horizontal or something.

    Still interesting, but I've yet to see modern cards with the cooler on the other side.

    Originally posted by Adarion View Post
    I had a passively cooled nearly 110 W TDP HD3870 (Sapphire Ultimate) and well, it worked.
    You mean this card? https://www.techpowerup.com/56384/sa...timate-edition

    Same as above, it's a bit cheating, it's not totally fanless.

    But there were even coolers for CPUs up to 95W+ so it's possible, but you won't see it often.
    There still are and still sell, they are bigass full-heatpipe shiny things though. https://www.quietpc.com/nof-icepipe

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  • starshipeleven
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    Originally posted by Chewi View Post
    I'm not a cooling expert but my HD4670 at 59W TDP actually cooled better with a Zalman heatsink than it did with the shitty fan it came with. 75W doesn't seem like that much more.
    You mean this? https://www.quietpc.com/sap-hd4670-ult
    Many HD4670 had similar heatsinks on the other side like it.

    I'd say it is a bit cheating as with the cooler on that side it's getting some airflow from CPU fan, and also plain heat convection helps unless you keep your case horizontal or something.

    Still interesting, but I've yet to see modern cards with the cooler on the other side.

    Originally posted by Adarion View Post
    I had a passively cooled nearly 110 W TDP HD3870 (Sapphire Ultimate) and well, it worked.
    You mean this card? https://www.techpowerup.com/56384/sa...timate-edition

    Same as above, it's a bit cheating, it's not totally fanless.

    But there were even coolers for CPUs up to 95W+ so it's possible, but you won't see it often.
    There still are and still sell, they are bigass full-heatpipe shiny things though. https://www.quietpc.com/nof-icepipe

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  • MVinhas
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    Exactly, that's why I said "on Windows", that way you can know how many potential these babies have.

    On Windows benchmarks, the RX480 outperforms GTX970 in DX12/Vulkan and matches GTX970 in DX11/OGL.

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  • starshipeleven
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    Originally posted by chuckula View Post
    Uh... those cards draw considerably more than 75 watts in real-world situations and in order to comply with PCIe and not fry any more motherboards it's pretty obvious why there's a 6-pin connector there: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...60,4707-5.html
    Ahem, the article says:
    "this is Asus' interpretation of the RX 460, which benefits from factory overclocking in our performance charts, but pays the price when we measure power."


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  • Xaero_Vincent
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    Originally posted by MVinhas View Post
    On Windows, better than a GTX950 in DirectX12/Vulkan and worse on DX11/OpenGL. A little disappointing considering that this card will be available in Europe at 140€, more or less.

    There is plenty of space for a RX465, one that can compete with GTX960 in DX11/OGL and GTX970 in DX12/Vulkan. Again, this is for Windows. For Linux i suppose that they will perform worse in every scenario, unfortunately.
    Judging from Michael's recent 480 benchmarks, only the RX 480 can match a GTX 960 (maybe Superclocked version) with OpenGL and GTX 970 with Vulkan on Linux with most game benchmarks.

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  • MVinhas
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    On Windows, better than a GTX950 in DirectX12/Vulkan and worse on DX11/OpenGL. A little disappointing considering that this card will be available in Europe at 140€, more or less.

    There is plenty of space for a RX465, one that can compete with GTX960 in DX11/OGL and GTX970 in DX12/Vulkan. Again, this is for Windows. For Linux i suppose that they will perform worse in every scenario, unfortunately.

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  • bridgman
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    Originally posted by chuckula View Post
    Uh... those cards draw considerably more than 75 watts in real-world situations and in order to comply with PCIe and not fry any more motherboards it's pretty obvious why there's a 6-pin connector there: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...60,4707-5.html
    AFAIK the 75W rating was for reference clocks, but the cards shipping today seem to be mostly factory OC.

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  • Adarion
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    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
    Not that likely, at least for now. That's still a 75 watt TDP GPU, you cannot dissipate even 1/3 that if you go fanless (without silly huge heatsinks anyway).
    I had a passively cooled nearly 110 W TDP HD3870 (Sapphire Ultimate) and well, it worked. Of course it did have quite a lot of fins and heatpipes and without energy management back in the days in the free driver... uh-oh. ;-)
    But there were even coolers for CPUs up to 95W+ so it's possible, but you won't see it often.
    As long as the card does have a silent and good quality fan I'll also be okay with a non-fanless card.

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