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  • #11
    Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
    blah blah blah
    Go license troll somewhere else.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
      It's not your freedom. As far as I know It's still apple sponsored and BSD licensed project. BSD licensed projects have NOTHING common with freedom. The code can be used in proprietary applications and you get nothing. Send patches to clang/llvm and get fooled. They'll take your patches and won't have to open source theirs. It's a no brainer.


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      • #13
        Originally posted by discordian View Post
        So what if they get used in proprietary applications? As long they are good and worth their money or even gratis, Id rather have that choice than nothing. You think GPL projects where built without money? For many thing you pay them if you dont use it, the money flows through selling services.
        Id rather send patches to LLVM, than having to to turn over my copyright to GNU and not beeing able to use my own code in every way I like.

        Your "freedom" sounds like you nobody should be able to create anything without fully sharing.. do you live this? Your home and fridge open to anyone, car fully tanked and key ready for the next homeless guy wanting to drive to the liquer store?
        Agreed.

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        • #14
          Hey y'all! Lets turn this into a GCC vs Clang flame war.

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          • #15
            Implying ICC !> both.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by curaga View Post
              Implying ICC !> both.
              Are you taking about intel c compiler? Or is it a typo?

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              • #17
                Yes, ICC = Intel compiler.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
                  It's not your freedom. As far as I know It's still apple sponsored and BSD licensed project.
                  Which makes it extremely valuable. It avoids the freedom robbing GPL.

                  BSD licensed projects have NOTHING common with freedom. The code can be used in proprietary applications and you get nothing.
                  The whole point of open source is the free use of your code. In any event you may get something out of it including feedback and bug reports.

                  Send patches to clang/llvm and get fooled.
                  The only fool here is the one hung up about BSD and the good that license does for open source.
                  They'll take your patches and won't have to open source theirs. It's a no brainer.
                  Maybe maybe not but it is their code and they are free to do what they want with it. Just like you are free to use your code as you see fit.

                  In any event you are so full of baloney that it is down right humorous. You do realize that Apple just merged their entire ARM compiler in with the running open source project. An effort that by the way incorporated the best features of all contributors.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by discordian View Post
                    So what if they get used in proprietary applications? As long they are good and worth their money or even gratis, Id rather have that choice than nothing. You think GPL projects where built without money? For many thing you pay them if you dont use it, the money flows through selling services.
                    Id rather send patches to LLVM, than having to to turn over my copyright to GNU and not beeing able to use my own code in every way I like.

                    Your "freedom" sounds like you nobody should be able to create anything without fully sharing.. do you live this? Your home and fridge open to anyone, car fully tanked and key ready for the next homeless guy wanting to drive to the liquer store?
                    Exactly. Say I work on a proprietary CPU architecture in a very competitive field. I have to make changes to a compiler to support my CPU architecture.

                    With a BSD license, I can do so, no strings attached.
                    With a GPL license, I have to expose my architecture to my rivals, who will "borrow" as much as they can to make a better product and cost me money.

                    Which is better for me?

                    And before anyone rants about "proprietary software", how many of you are using the NVIDIA blob? Or the various proprietary audio codecs? So save the hypocrisy.

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                    • #20
                      Your competitors have already bought your cpu and put it under an electron microscope. There is nothing interesting to them in your compiler.

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